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20 years 5 months ago #10090
by Jim
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Before you do teleporting there are some kinks in the logic that need to be ironed out. If as Newton says(your post)
1704 Newton authored his book "Optiks" where he's quoted as saying, "Gross bodies and light are convertible into one another". what becomes of the bodies mass when the conversion is made? They tell me a photon has no mass and bodies have mass.
1704 Newton authored his book "Optiks" where he's quoted as saying, "Gross bodies and light are convertible into one another". what becomes of the bodies mass when the conversion is made? They tell me a photon has no mass and bodies have mass.
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20 years 5 months ago #10097
by Don Omni
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Jim, what do you mean, "...before I do teleporting..."...heh...? Yes it is true what Newton said about the E/m conversion way back in the Day. As for the mass it merely appears to cancel then 'transits hypervirtuality' and becomes mc^2 again on the other side of the telejump. It's just like I said though, it's the unknown geometric mechanism of inversion in the as of yet undefined quantumechanic stats that allow the mass to 'just go along for the 'jump'.
As for a photon 6.626x10^-34xm_0=hf/c^2 so that a photon can be given a mass in the sense that 6.626x10^-34xm_Sun but technically the photon has a zero rest mass like the rest of these cats prescribe.
Now if ya wanna go Capt. Jack Sparrow on all their wannabe a$$es then we'll have to assume that v^2/c^2 exists like v/c is thus
6.626x10^-34mv^2/c^2=6.626x10^-34mv^2tf/c^2=7.372x10^-51kg is the mass of a photon meaning E=7.372x10^-51kgxc^2=6.624x10^-34Joules although it's just as easy to say that h, G, and K have a zero rest mass so that everything can be given a mass relative to the numerical constants of h, G, and K.
So when the conversion is made the mass is saved into the dematerialization of the past memory (E/m) and presently translated through the sub-space/time of hypervirtuality (c^2) then recalled as the rematerialization of the future imagination (mc^2) when the telejump is completed.
In order to understand it any better you must experience it for yourself.
As for a photon 6.626x10^-34xm_0=hf/c^2 so that a photon can be given a mass in the sense that 6.626x10^-34xm_Sun but technically the photon has a zero rest mass like the rest of these cats prescribe.
Now if ya wanna go Capt. Jack Sparrow on all their wannabe a$$es then we'll have to assume that v^2/c^2 exists like v/c is thus
6.626x10^-34mv^2/c^2=6.626x10^-34mv^2tf/c^2=7.372x10^-51kg is the mass of a photon meaning E=7.372x10^-51kgxc^2=6.624x10^-34Joules although it's just as easy to say that h, G, and K have a zero rest mass so that everything can be given a mass relative to the numerical constants of h, G, and K.
So when the conversion is made the mass is saved into the dematerialization of the past memory (E/m) and presently translated through the sub-space/time of hypervirtuality (c^2) then recalled as the rematerialization of the future imagination (mc^2) when the telejump is completed.
In order to understand it any better you must experience it for yourself.
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20 years 5 months ago #10100
by Jim
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You say the photon has mass then you say the photon is massless or the photon mass is zero. This seems to me to be a contridiction that can only make sense if you also say zero mass is mass and not massless. So, you say the photon has a mass of ~10E-51kg and I am not sure if that is mass or massless. Can you focus on this and explain? It would conserve time and space if you focus on the mass of the photon if you can.
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20 years 5 months ago #11275
by Don Omni
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Yes that rare breed photon mass...a tricky creature to wrangle indeed. Personally I don't limit myself to thinking that carp has to be one way and will only ever be that way ad infini. I believe change is the only constant because truth is the only variable. This said I think that the photon does have a zero rest mass so it can travel at light speed. I also believe what General Relativity says about photons passing near tremendous sources of gravity having their paths curved that in the most vulgarly simple terms appears to be 6.626x10^-34xm_Sun. Also I believe that a photon has the mass of 7.372x10^-51kg when 'conception occurs'. I'm not only talking about the literal birthly conception of a human or other living entity but also when you get a bright idea and the 'light goes on in your head'. It's not actually light itself but it's light given the body of mass concerning the bright ideas people come up with everyday. Like you said you're not sure if 7.372x10^-51kg is mass or massless it's actually the lowest limit mass for the origin of an idea if you believe that everything's fundamentally built from light, which I do.
So h has zero rest mass (action) but a gross enough mass can alter the trajectory of the zero rest mass h (equal reaction) and if the trajectory is irrevocably altered then a photon will have a mass (opposite reaction). But it's like we're talking about 2 photons here, one with zero rest mass that's trajectory curves due to gravity and another photon that becomes massive if enough curvature force is present. It's because 6.626x10^-34Js is an old school way to view the 'Newtonxmeterxsecond' units of a photon. If we were to say 6.626x10^-34Ws^2 (Wattxsecond^2) where Js^2/s then we'd be looking at a photon from 'a higher level' where time naturally cancels for h. The Joule second photon is the zero rest mass trajectory curvable photon (old school) and the Watt second squared photon is the irrevocable trajectory curved photon given mass (new school). When time cancels in Js^2/s it's like time_future(rationalism)/time_past(empiricism) is conceiving a massive idea or an entity presently in 7.372x10^-51kg=6.672x10^-34kgv^2s^2/s^2/c^2.
So as I've already detailed that the propagation rate of time is c^2 this would in essence be the propagation rate of c^2_past and the rate at which the future time travels is totally arbitrary v^2_future thus this is a very undetailed analysis of how I'm using v^2/c^2 to determine photon mass loosely based on Pt^2.
Hey I always asked myself where ideas come from where the answer isn't simply the brain and I think you've just helped me enlighten myself a bit so thanks Jim and sorry if you couldn't understand anything in this but it helped me out a bit.
........................Omni
So h has zero rest mass (action) but a gross enough mass can alter the trajectory of the zero rest mass h (equal reaction) and if the trajectory is irrevocably altered then a photon will have a mass (opposite reaction). But it's like we're talking about 2 photons here, one with zero rest mass that's trajectory curves due to gravity and another photon that becomes massive if enough curvature force is present. It's because 6.626x10^-34Js is an old school way to view the 'Newtonxmeterxsecond' units of a photon. If we were to say 6.626x10^-34Ws^2 (Wattxsecond^2) where Js^2/s then we'd be looking at a photon from 'a higher level' where time naturally cancels for h. The Joule second photon is the zero rest mass trajectory curvable photon (old school) and the Watt second squared photon is the irrevocable trajectory curved photon given mass (new school). When time cancels in Js^2/s it's like time_future(rationalism)/time_past(empiricism) is conceiving a massive idea or an entity presently in 7.372x10^-51kg=6.672x10^-34kgv^2s^2/s^2/c^2.
So as I've already detailed that the propagation rate of time is c^2 this would in essence be the propagation rate of c^2_past and the rate at which the future time travels is totally arbitrary v^2_future thus this is a very undetailed analysis of how I'm using v^2/c^2 to determine photon mass loosely based on Pt^2.
Hey I always asked myself where ideas come from where the answer isn't simply the brain and I think you've just helped me enlighten myself a bit so thanks Jim and sorry if you couldn't understand anything in this but it helped me out a bit.
........................Omni
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20 years 5 months ago #10103
by Jim
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If mass and energy are equivalent then is it not so that they are both able to be measured in the same unit? This may be why the unit "electron volt" was coined somewhere along the line. So, rather than attempting to estimate the mass(or masslessness)of a photon it would be easier to estimate the mass of an ev? Then since photons are measured in ev units would you have the mass of a photon?
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20 years 5 months ago #10105
by Don Omni
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Right that F/e=V/d where Fd=eV is handy. So 7.372x10^-51kg photon mass would then be just about 4.135x10^-15eV which comes back to Max's constant again.
eV mass would be e_9.109x10^-31kgxV_m^2/ampsecond^3. Or 1.602x10^-19mv^2/c^2 is 1.782x10^-36kg which's another way to look at eV mass or the eV atomic mass unit relation is 1.073x10^-9u. It just gets so complicated because of the overall lack of focus in physics today and the government outlawing all the lab bench tech that would help do this for us I'd just rather say Power times time.
I have a golf engagement but I'll be back to see if anyone answered my questions about the definition of the undefined 1/0 or if anyone posted about what they think the true quantum stats are.
eV mass would be e_9.109x10^-31kgxV_m^2/ampsecond^3. Or 1.602x10^-19mv^2/c^2 is 1.782x10^-36kg which's another way to look at eV mass or the eV atomic mass unit relation is 1.073x10^-9u. It just gets so complicated because of the overall lack of focus in physics today and the government outlawing all the lab bench tech that would help do this for us I'd just rather say Power times time.
I have a golf engagement but I'll be back to see if anyone answered my questions about the definition of the undefined 1/0 or if anyone posted about what they think the true quantum stats are.
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