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17 years 3 months ago #19895
by Stoat
Replied by Stoat on topic Reply from Robert Turner
Hi John, the way I now think of a proton say, is that we have a shell of electromagnetic aether, then a shell of "fuzzy" ftl particles which become more and more wave like as the approach the quarks in the centre. i would say that it's the fuzzy ftl particles, slowed down to near light speed that are the basis of our higgs. It's that "electron like" node around which the quarks spin that is the interesting thing I think. It has an eletron charge but it must be incredibly dense.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I will take a look at Linda Howe's parts.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote"> In England John, that comment would get a roar of laughter[] it would be considered ever so slightly rude [8D][]
This alledged ufo fragment has become infamous in the murky word of ufonaut paranoia. Most of the stuff written about it looks like a deliberate muddying of the waters. If it's a hoax it has been a very elaborate one. It's my guess that it's still beomg looked at on the quiet.
What might be happening when we get magnesium to superconduct at such a highttemperature? Suppose that the atoms in a lattice vibrate. Each proton then moves back and forth. It's quarks don't vibrate, they are held in place by that electron like node that controls the ptoton's inertia.. But suppose that the stability of this vibration sets up a resonant frequency in the quarks? If a photon approaches a nucleus and this region of space is a BEC, then at some point it can be slowed down to the speed of sound. If the aether space it's in, suddenly moves, due to the resonant vibration frequency, then perhaps our photon now looks like a phonon. It's slow but it holds a lot of energy, enough energy to force electrons together into Cooper pairs.
If magnesium can do the trick of acting like a full rectifier then, in keeping with the "gravitational voltage" analogy, we'd have a "d.c. voltage" of about six billion times c. Of course that doesn't say we can get our grubby little mitts onto that power but it does suggest it's worth taking a look at.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I will take a look at Linda Howe's parts.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote"> In England John, that comment would get a roar of laughter[] it would be considered ever so slightly rude [8D][]
This alledged ufo fragment has become infamous in the murky word of ufonaut paranoia. Most of the stuff written about it looks like a deliberate muddying of the waters. If it's a hoax it has been a very elaborate one. It's my guess that it's still beomg looked at on the quiet.
What might be happening when we get magnesium to superconduct at such a highttemperature? Suppose that the atoms in a lattice vibrate. Each proton then moves back and forth. It's quarks don't vibrate, they are held in place by that electron like node that controls the ptoton's inertia.. But suppose that the stability of this vibration sets up a resonant frequency in the quarks? If a photon approaches a nucleus and this region of space is a BEC, then at some point it can be slowed down to the speed of sound. If the aether space it's in, suddenly moves, due to the resonant vibration frequency, then perhaps our photon now looks like a phonon. It's slow but it holds a lot of energy, enough energy to force electrons together into Cooper pairs.
If magnesium can do the trick of acting like a full rectifier then, in keeping with the "gravitational voltage" analogy, we'd have a "d.c. voltage" of about six billion times c. Of course that doesn't say we can get our grubby little mitts onto that power but it does suggest it's worth taking a look at.
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17 years 3 months ago #19612
by cosmicsurfer
Replied by cosmicsurfer on topic Reply from John Rickey
Hi Stoat, now that was a laugh and a half!!! I was in a hurry trying to write a quick note back to you, with wife telling me we had to go...Sorry about that...but yes the "gravitational voltage" is certainly out of reach on a normal basis(I will study your BEC model/check out the supposed e.t. parts). Yet I think the unification of the forces certainly centers around this single force, or dual nature of juxtaposition of forward incoming(matter)and reverse (antimatter) leaving wave.
The collapsing Aether field generates (Graviton) currents that are the lines of force, so that even magnetism is the result of this constant incoming outgoing circuit. Magnetism results from allignment of spinning electron currents, and the electrical currents cause fero-magnetic lensing of the g-force which forms a dipolar magnification of these Lines of force that are virtual and FTL between the north and south poles. Does the square wave g-force represent a direct current (rectify FTL collapse-pole/equator switching demodulation), while the sine wave represent the generated resonating frequency (rotational waves)?
Why would high g frequencies/particles collapse into lower frequency c frequency arrays? Because high frequency particles would be equalized around other high frequencies and could only exit from resonating pressures of sine waves towards a lower pressure gradient as found in Matter. Higher frequencies then cascade into lower frequencies manifesting densities or bands of gravitational centers in regions of space forming RSR rigid spatial latices such as is found in crystal/metal structures. Light waves, Faraday rotations and radio waves are generated as result of this collapsing fields/gravitational voltages being rectified to c.
Now regarding taping this g-source voltages. What I came to realize is that all motion is formed out of greater motions, or currents must complete a circuit to create transfer of momentum. What is really taking place beyond normal mass accelerations might be unseen. We take for granted this existance, but the causal relationships for even mass to exist for the most part is not even discussed except in the context of the "forces" and just exactly where do these forces originate??? Oh, a BIG BANG, and there was an early universe, which to me is more muck to wade around in. Logically, space is INFINITE, does not curve, and therefore even an explosion of space would have boundaries so that a BIG BANG could not form but a finite space in an infinite UNIVERSE. By the way, a big bang could certainly happen even in my local hypothetical model of a dual matter/antimatter universe (collapsing fields produce one huge annihilation). However, this big bang collapsing field would regenerate again into two seperate lobes so that the dual right and left hand rotational torques again would generate tremendous power output. There is a caveate, for a Big Bang could not form an entire UNIVERSE ever!!!! It is a very naive notion, because infinities would provide enough space for development of such a complex geometry allowing many centers to exist so that extreme mirrored hyperdimensional curvature would go on ad infinitum with many linked dimensional rotations, but would also allow for isolated systems without any one dimension dominating any other dimension. We are not going to know what the Universe looks like but, one thing is for certain what ever we think we know will most likely be violated eventually by a larger picture of UNIVERSE.
John
The collapsing Aether field generates (Graviton) currents that are the lines of force, so that even magnetism is the result of this constant incoming outgoing circuit. Magnetism results from allignment of spinning electron currents, and the electrical currents cause fero-magnetic lensing of the g-force which forms a dipolar magnification of these Lines of force that are virtual and FTL between the north and south poles. Does the square wave g-force represent a direct current (rectify FTL collapse-pole/equator switching demodulation), while the sine wave represent the generated resonating frequency (rotational waves)?
Why would high g frequencies/particles collapse into lower frequency c frequency arrays? Because high frequency particles would be equalized around other high frequencies and could only exit from resonating pressures of sine waves towards a lower pressure gradient as found in Matter. Higher frequencies then cascade into lower frequencies manifesting densities or bands of gravitational centers in regions of space forming RSR rigid spatial latices such as is found in crystal/metal structures. Light waves, Faraday rotations and radio waves are generated as result of this collapsing fields/gravitational voltages being rectified to c.
Now regarding taping this g-source voltages. What I came to realize is that all motion is formed out of greater motions, or currents must complete a circuit to create transfer of momentum. What is really taking place beyond normal mass accelerations might be unseen. We take for granted this existance, but the causal relationships for even mass to exist for the most part is not even discussed except in the context of the "forces" and just exactly where do these forces originate??? Oh, a BIG BANG, and there was an early universe, which to me is more muck to wade around in. Logically, space is INFINITE, does not curve, and therefore even an explosion of space would have boundaries so that a BIG BANG could not form but a finite space in an infinite UNIVERSE. By the way, a big bang could certainly happen even in my local hypothetical model of a dual matter/antimatter universe (collapsing fields produce one huge annihilation). However, this big bang collapsing field would regenerate again into two seperate lobes so that the dual right and left hand rotational torques again would generate tremendous power output. There is a caveate, for a Big Bang could not form an entire UNIVERSE ever!!!! It is a very naive notion, because infinities would provide enough space for development of such a complex geometry allowing many centers to exist so that extreme mirrored hyperdimensional curvature would go on ad infinitum with many linked dimensional rotations, but would also allow for isolated systems without any one dimension dominating any other dimension. We are not going to know what the Universe looks like but, one thing is for certain what ever we think we know will most likely be violated eventually by a larger picture of UNIVERSE.
John
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17 years 3 months ago #19613
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Replied by Stoat on topic Reply from Robert Turner
Hi John, if long wave phonons are a measure of the latent heat of a substance, then a room temperature superconductor would exclude thermal photons. The material would have a frequency and act like it was a giant atom. Now phonons can have sound like qualities or light like qualities, depending on their wavelength. Long waves are sound like.
I tnink the good thing about thinking of the atomic nucleus as being a BEC is that it forces one to start thinking of the atom as a whole. I think we tend to think of superconductors as chemists, it's all down to how electrons bond.
If we think of the nucleus as a BEC within a superconductor, which of course is itself a BEC, then the idea of a phonon makes a bit more sense. It's a photon slowed down to the speed of sound, then it's had it's "blanket" of space at some refractive index, whipped away from it []
What happens when a long wave phonon meets a photon? The rules of superposition of waves apply. But we can also have very fast phonons, analogous to Cerenkov radiation.
I tnink the good thing about thinking of the atomic nucleus as being a BEC is that it forces one to start thinking of the atom as a whole. I think we tend to think of superconductors as chemists, it's all down to how electrons bond.
If we think of the nucleus as a BEC within a superconductor, which of course is itself a BEC, then the idea of a phonon makes a bit more sense. It's a photon slowed down to the speed of sound, then it's had it's "blanket" of space at some refractive index, whipped away from it []
What happens when a long wave phonon meets a photon? The rules of superposition of waves apply. But we can also have very fast phonons, analogous to Cerenkov radiation.
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17 years 3 months ago #17991
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Some stuff on the alleged ufo fragment [8D] I'd been talking via e mail to a physicist about photosynthesis and zpe. I mentioned the fragment as it involved magnesium. I knew very little about the thing but I thought it was most likely a fragment from some sort of HEAT anti tank projectile. I thought that this composite material could mase. A pulse weapon in that case.
The guy I was talking to knew who had the fragment and suggested i contact her. I did but the field of ufology is a bit of a money tree and she, Linda Howe, wasn't keen on just sending me the lab reports.
So me and this guy kicked the idea about for awhile until we got bored with it.
The story goes: Howe was sent the fragment/s anonymously by someone on the recovery team of a ufo from Whitesands, New Mexico. It’s supposed to be part of a tile from the underside of the crashed vehicle. These tiles covered the bottom and were about ten inches square.
The tiles were about half a centimetre thick and are multilayered. We have layers of magnesium, of about 100 microns to 200 microns, interleaved with layers of bismuth of about 3 to 4 microns in thickness. The whole thing is micro dimpled.
So, I had been wrong about the idea of a HEAT shell. I thought that the bismuth was thick just to give the shell some clout. Anyway, we talked about it and decided that we would need it to super conduct and we wanted the dimples to be conic frustums. This would allow us to switch off the superconductivity on the flats but not on the sides of the dimples.
How to join the layers? Not easy at all!! Two possible ways, build it layer by layer in an I beam coater, or metalide it in molten fluoride. Note that the layer thickness is far too thick to give us a super conducting zone. It would only be at the epitaxial layer of the bismuth/magnesium alloy formed. Reading up a little on the new magnesium/boron superconductor, it looks as though we might have the development of a multi stack of diamagnetic magnesium sheets, one atom thick.
So we gave it up as a bad job. No idea what it could do, or even if we could “switch” it on. As a hoax it has to be one of the oddest, it would cost a great deal of money and time to make. Genuine, and it would be a bit of a bummer! Imagine getting pulled over by the galactic police for driving a ship that contained stolen copyright material. I would be brazen about it, “so prove it copper!” But then they might get upset and blast the planet into bits. [][][}]
The guy I was talking to knew who had the fragment and suggested i contact her. I did but the field of ufology is a bit of a money tree and she, Linda Howe, wasn't keen on just sending me the lab reports.
So me and this guy kicked the idea about for awhile until we got bored with it.
The story goes: Howe was sent the fragment/s anonymously by someone on the recovery team of a ufo from Whitesands, New Mexico. It’s supposed to be part of a tile from the underside of the crashed vehicle. These tiles covered the bottom and were about ten inches square.
The tiles were about half a centimetre thick and are multilayered. We have layers of magnesium, of about 100 microns to 200 microns, interleaved with layers of bismuth of about 3 to 4 microns in thickness. The whole thing is micro dimpled.
So, I had been wrong about the idea of a HEAT shell. I thought that the bismuth was thick just to give the shell some clout. Anyway, we talked about it and decided that we would need it to super conduct and we wanted the dimples to be conic frustums. This would allow us to switch off the superconductivity on the flats but not on the sides of the dimples.
How to join the layers? Not easy at all!! Two possible ways, build it layer by layer in an I beam coater, or metalide it in molten fluoride. Note that the layer thickness is far too thick to give us a super conducting zone. It would only be at the epitaxial layer of the bismuth/magnesium alloy formed. Reading up a little on the new magnesium/boron superconductor, it looks as though we might have the development of a multi stack of diamagnetic magnesium sheets, one atom thick.
So we gave it up as a bad job. No idea what it could do, or even if we could “switch” it on. As a hoax it has to be one of the oddest, it would cost a great deal of money and time to make. Genuine, and it would be a bit of a bummer! Imagine getting pulled over by the galactic police for driving a ship that contained stolen copyright material. I would be brazen about it, “so prove it copper!” But then they might get upset and blast the planet into bits. [][][}]
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17 years 3 months ago #17995
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Replied by cosmicsurfer on topic Reply from John Rickey
Hi Stoat, I was thinking about what you had to say about BEC's and superconducting (have not looked at e.t. part yet but will). BEC's normally require cooling and magnetic entrapment. Maybe Gravitons operate as BEC's (scale difference in that at c frequencies mass would appear cold to a g frequency) because of the extreme motion and high frequency, revealing that all forces are a result of this greater wave interaction from Gravitons that have huge fields that surround them. Problem is that we do not currently accept that motions or frequencies can operate at greater then light speeds/frequencies. So, we have these incredibly convoluted branes enfoldment and string theories that reveal how mass 'walls' carry charge as an internal problem and that the greater bulk of the gravity mass is located some where else in a hidden dimension---gravity then becomes a long range force.
Alright, maybe gravity is a long range force with shadowing just like TVF states with core heating, EPH, and pushing against mass---maybe it does all of that because it is a BEC!!! Two parts; wave motion effect, and the demodulation of frequencies within atom. Mass attractions could be caused by alignment of 'push' from over all Aether collapse towards direction of centers of gravity. FTL particles may rotate at extreme speeds which would generate a larger wave synchronicity with all rotation torque creating inwards momentum towards lower frequency ranges.
Now, GRAVITY could still be caused by a collapsing field of Aether that originates from a frequency cascade from higher scales, and that Aether (small feed stock high frequency wave forms that can form various particles)forms into gravitons that stream into all mass and operate similar to electricity at a very high frequency. Generating tremendous currents that are unseen because they are FTL. Forming RSR rigid spatial relationships that link to hyperdimensional geometries. Maybe the graviton collapsing wave into mass creates a BEC moment that is huge.
Here are some examples of formations that reveal greater harmonics that operate on large and small scales:
So, looks to me that there is an underlying harmonic governing all mass latice geometric relationships. Is this harmonic from a scale wide lines of force created by collapsing fields and BEC superwave supersymetry?
John
Alright, maybe gravity is a long range force with shadowing just like TVF states with core heating, EPH, and pushing against mass---maybe it does all of that because it is a BEC!!! Two parts; wave motion effect, and the demodulation of frequencies within atom. Mass attractions could be caused by alignment of 'push' from over all Aether collapse towards direction of centers of gravity. FTL particles may rotate at extreme speeds which would generate a larger wave synchronicity with all rotation torque creating inwards momentum towards lower frequency ranges.
Now, GRAVITY could still be caused by a collapsing field of Aether that originates from a frequency cascade from higher scales, and that Aether (small feed stock high frequency wave forms that can form various particles)forms into gravitons that stream into all mass and operate similar to electricity at a very high frequency. Generating tremendous currents that are unseen because they are FTL. Forming RSR rigid spatial relationships that link to hyperdimensional geometries. Maybe the graviton collapsing wave into mass creates a BEC moment that is huge.
Here are some examples of formations that reveal greater harmonics that operate on large and small scales:
So, looks to me that there is an underlying harmonic governing all mass latice geometric relationships. Is this harmonic from a scale wide lines of force created by collapsing fields and BEC superwave supersymetry?
John
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17 years 3 months ago #17996
by Stoat
Replied by Stoat on topic Reply from Robert Turner
With a BEC proton, we walk along a plain one foot above sea level, and arrive at a very tall, thin volcano. If it's a proton then its floor is at sea level, if it's a neutron, then its floor is one foot above sea level. Rather than climbing up the thing, then down again into the caldera, we can walk round it until we find a tunnel. Downhill it's a proton, uphill a neutron.
A BEC model works with TVF's ideas, Le Sage "shadows" and "strings" do mcuh the same job. Though i would say that a shadow knows where its ends are. The other point is that if we accept that phonons are a measure of the latent heat of any substance, and that they are "slow" photons in a BEC, then we are talking about a relationship between temperature and electormagnetic mass. As we move further in towards our quarks, we "know' where they are. So we cant know anything about their momentum. That makes it tricky to talk about gravitational temperature. That's why people shrug when they are asked whether the core of a neutron star is hot. It's actually cold but it holds a lot of latent heat. BECs are funny things. [8D]
(Edited) thinking about the proton as a rectifier, with a small leakage current when reverse biased. I found this site that may be of interest. Perhaps looking at the mercury arc rectifier might give us an insight into why things sometimes explode. www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=41wjs24r&pf=YES
A BEC model works with TVF's ideas, Le Sage "shadows" and "strings" do mcuh the same job. Though i would say that a shadow knows where its ends are. The other point is that if we accept that phonons are a measure of the latent heat of any substance, and that they are "slow" photons in a BEC, then we are talking about a relationship between temperature and electormagnetic mass. As we move further in towards our quarks, we "know' where they are. So we cant know anything about their momentum. That makes it tricky to talk about gravitational temperature. That's why people shrug when they are asked whether the core of a neutron star is hot. It's actually cold but it holds a lot of latent heat. BECs are funny things. [8D]
(Edited) thinking about the proton as a rectifier, with a small leakage current when reverse biased. I found this site that may be of interest. Perhaps looking at the mercury arc rectifier might give us an insight into why things sometimes explode. www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=41wjs24r&pf=YES
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