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19 years 3 months ago #14145
by cosmicsurfer
Replied by cosmicsurfer on topic Reply from John Rickey
If both electrostatic forces and gravitons travel FTL, then there is a good chance that the photon is a subset of these higher frequencies and is created by the interactions between gravitational and electromagnetic forces. Further, the density strength of the electromagnetic fields and gravitational fields will affect the speed of light. Can light travel backwards in time? Yes, and I would also say that light can travel faster then the forward motion of time, which means that the electrostatic forces could actually also loop into forward time and an object could temporarily disappear and then reappear. Maybe light waves are dependent upon the surrounding electromagnetic fields and tunneling due to packets of photons surrounded by strong fields allows this displacement or faster then light speeds to take place with in time.
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19 years 3 months ago #14194
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\ cosmicsurfer:
\ "If both electrostatic forces and gravitons travel FTL, then there is a good chance that the photon is a subset of these higher
\ frequencies and is created by the interactions between gravitational and electromagnetic forces."
I see what you mean but "higher frequencies" is bad terminology for a packet of energy, electrostatic forces or gravitons
\ "...light can travel faster then the forward motion of time..."
Hmm. When you get stopped by a traffic cop who says: "You were doing 83 miles!" just say that you are going frome your house to your brothers and that it's only 14 miles, then you'ld have a point.
The forward motion of time is not a speed.
\ "If both electrostatic forces and gravitons travel FTL, then there is a good chance that the photon is a subset of these higher
\ frequencies and is created by the interactions between gravitational and electromagnetic forces."
I see what you mean but "higher frequencies" is bad terminology for a packet of energy, electrostatic forces or gravitons
\ "...light can travel faster then the forward motion of time..."
Hmm. When you get stopped by a traffic cop who says: "You were doing 83 miles!" just say that you are going frome your house to your brothers and that it's only 14 miles, then you'ld have a point.
The forward motion of time is not a speed.
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19 years 3 months ago #14147
by cosmicsurfer
Replied by cosmicsurfer on topic Reply from John Rickey
If gravitons in fact do travel FTL, and electrostatic forces potentiate FTL, then it would be impossible for existing technology that operates within the range of the spectrum of light to register these "higher frequencies" that operate above the light spectrum. I understand your point but higher frequencies can effect the time synchronization of any given space, and if higher frequencies travel faster then light and loop into forward time this effect would cause any trapped light surrounded by a high intensity electromagnetic field to also travel at FTL speeds. A packet of light surrounded by a warped field becomes a quasi-singularity, and is no longer subject to the controls or linked to local relativity. So, no speed limits when you have your warped field isolating you from any given local relativity, you can flash right on by the cop and in fact dependent upon the field strength you might even be invisible and would feel zero motion, no G forces, since you are no longer locked into existing relativity.
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19 years 3 months ago #14149
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cosmicsurfer:
"you can flash right on by the cop and in fact dependent upon the field strength you might even be invisible"
Lol, that's a good one.
Whenever you get stopped by a cop who talks physical gibberish just pretend you're invisible.
"you can flash right on by the cop and in fact dependent upon the field strength you might even be invisible"
Lol, that's a good one.
Whenever you get stopped by a cop who talks physical gibberish just pretend you're invisible.
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19 years 3 months ago #13572
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Michiel,
I am Sorry if you were not able to understand the concepts of FTL photon packet tunneling and the issues of relativity regarding high frequency electrostatic forces encapsulating a field of light. Making sarcastic comments is a waste of time and only makes you look foolish. I would rather carry on an intelligent conversation and if you do not agree with my comments then say so, but don't slam me for my ideas.....
Let's get back to the subject of FTL Frequencies and do a search on electrostatic shielding and photon tunneling and see what we come up with:
NASA:
"I think NASA should always be considering these far-out concepts," said NASA's Robert Youngquist, a physicist who leads the Applied Physics Lab at Kennedy Space Center in Florida.
Youngquist and two colleagues are studying the feasibility of a radiation shield that relies on electrostatic charge to ward off harmful high-energy particles before they reach a crewed spacecraft."
Youngquist's team envisions a spacecraft equipped with what's called a multipole electrostatic radiation shield, a radiation guard made up of three electrically charged spheres set in a line along the axis of the ship. The center sphere, set close or even attached to the crew module, would be positively charged, while two outrigger spheres on either side would carry a negative charge."
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5079651/
Chiao Group Superluminal Research
"Over the past few years we have performed experiments on two-photon interference. These included a test of Bell's inequalities, a study of the complementarity principle, an application of EPR correlations for dispersion-free time-measurements, and an experiment to demonstrate the superluminal nature of the tunneling process. The nonlocal character of the quantum world was brought out clearly by these experiments. However, we have shown that quantum nonlocality is not inconsistent with Einstein causality.
Today we are investigating population inversions in atomic or molecular media. This has led us to the possibility of superluminal propagation of off-resonance, finite-bandwidth electromagnetic wave packets, whose phase, group, energy, and ``signal'' velocities, as defined by Sommerfeld and Brillouin, all exceed the vacuum speed of light c. Einstein causality is not violated, since the front velocity is c. We are proposing an experiment to observe superluminal propagation of laser pulses detuned from a stimulated Raman transition in optically pumped rubidium vapor. The inversion of populations also can lead to a parelectric medium with negative DC electric susceptibility, thus implying the possibility of the levitation of an electrical charge in the vacuum above this medium. Stable electrostatic configurations of charges placed inside an evacuated cavity surrounded by this medium exist, in seeming violation of Earnshaw's theorem.
Experimental setup to observe superluminal pulse propagation."
www.geocities.com/capecanaveral/hangar/6929/research.html
I am Sorry if you were not able to understand the concepts of FTL photon packet tunneling and the issues of relativity regarding high frequency electrostatic forces encapsulating a field of light. Making sarcastic comments is a waste of time and only makes you look foolish. I would rather carry on an intelligent conversation and if you do not agree with my comments then say so, but don't slam me for my ideas.....
Let's get back to the subject of FTL Frequencies and do a search on electrostatic shielding and photon tunneling and see what we come up with:
NASA:
"I think NASA should always be considering these far-out concepts," said NASA's Robert Youngquist, a physicist who leads the Applied Physics Lab at Kennedy Space Center in Florida.
Youngquist and two colleagues are studying the feasibility of a radiation shield that relies on electrostatic charge to ward off harmful high-energy particles before they reach a crewed spacecraft."
Youngquist's team envisions a spacecraft equipped with what's called a multipole electrostatic radiation shield, a radiation guard made up of three electrically charged spheres set in a line along the axis of the ship. The center sphere, set close or even attached to the crew module, would be positively charged, while two outrigger spheres on either side would carry a negative charge."
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5079651/
Chiao Group Superluminal Research
"Over the past few years we have performed experiments on two-photon interference. These included a test of Bell's inequalities, a study of the complementarity principle, an application of EPR correlations for dispersion-free time-measurements, and an experiment to demonstrate the superluminal nature of the tunneling process. The nonlocal character of the quantum world was brought out clearly by these experiments. However, we have shown that quantum nonlocality is not inconsistent with Einstein causality.
Today we are investigating population inversions in atomic or molecular media. This has led us to the possibility of superluminal propagation of off-resonance, finite-bandwidth electromagnetic wave packets, whose phase, group, energy, and ``signal'' velocities, as defined by Sommerfeld and Brillouin, all exceed the vacuum speed of light c. Einstein causality is not violated, since the front velocity is c. We are proposing an experiment to observe superluminal propagation of laser pulses detuned from a stimulated Raman transition in optically pumped rubidium vapor. The inversion of populations also can lead to a parelectric medium with negative DC electric susceptibility, thus implying the possibility of the levitation of an electrical charge in the vacuum above this medium. Stable electrostatic configurations of charges placed inside an evacuated cavity surrounded by this medium exist, in seeming violation of Earnshaw's theorem.
Experimental setup to observe superluminal pulse propagation."
www.geocities.com/capecanaveral/hangar/6929/research.html
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19 years 3 months ago #14151
by Michiel
Replied by Michiel on topic Reply from Michiel
Hi cosmicsurfer, I apologize if I offended you, that was not my intention. It was meant as a joke, but not on you... sorry.
msnbc:
"Youngquist and two colleagues are studying the feasibility of a radiation shield that relies on electrostatic charge to ward off harmful high-energy particles before they reach a crewed spacecraft."
So it's for warding off high energy particles, not photons.
msnbc:
"Spacecraft designers may also use a ship's own cryogenic fluids as a radiation screen by arranging the cargo tanks containing them around crew compartments."
That would give some photon shielding and it will catch some high energy particles too.
On the Chiao research:
Starting point here is the speed of light. They are not claiming it's anything other then c.
But in a medium of resonating atoms there seems to be a group velocity higher then c. I'm not sure what "population inversions" are though.
I also was puzzled about the function of the rooftop prism, it's probably just a delay line.
The link you gave mentions a Quicktime movie ,I only see a small JPG file. Were you able to access this movie?
msnbc:
"Youngquist and two colleagues are studying the feasibility of a radiation shield that relies on electrostatic charge to ward off harmful high-energy particles before they reach a crewed spacecraft."
So it's for warding off high energy particles, not photons.
msnbc:
"Spacecraft designers may also use a ship's own cryogenic fluids as a radiation screen by arranging the cargo tanks containing them around crew compartments."
That would give some photon shielding and it will catch some high energy particles too.
On the Chiao research:
Starting point here is the speed of light. They are not claiming it's anything other then c.
But in a medium of resonating atoms there seems to be a group velocity higher then c. I'm not sure what "population inversions" are though.
I also was puzzled about the function of the rooftop prism, it's probably just a delay line.
The link you gave mentions a Quicktime movie ,I only see a small JPG file. Were you able to access this movie?
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