The entropy of systems

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<br />Hi GD, Great questions on entropy.

Regarding Ionized Hydrogen Atoms: Randall Mills, from Blacklightpower has found that by lowering the orbital velocities (decoupling dimensional electron spins) a release of huge amount of free energy can be created in the form of highly active plasmas that can be converted into electricity for powering cars. www.blacklightpower.com/
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- We do not have the same definition of "free energy". I used this term to designate the amount of energy available in the atom. If energy is released from the atom in a nuclear explosion for example, then those atoms have converted their mass in the process.
Plasma is the result of the atom undergoing an irreversible change, it has less free (available) energy.

If you feed heated air into the intake of a jet engine for example, its performance will be less than if it was cooler (lower entropy - higher potential) air or atoms.
It is the differential in potential of the atoms which creates all this power.
What comes out from the exhaust of a jet aircraft with after burners lit is also a form of plasma.

This difference in entropy of the atom from the intake air/fuel mixture and that of the exhaust is what propels the aircraft.

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<br />But if the Solar photosphere is beginning to reach the beginning limits where the energy transfer is being locally retarded through compression and high energy levels making the photosphere unable to express or reflect this energy as temperature...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Not a chance. The average density of the whole Sun is 1.4 g/cc, slightly more than water but much less than rock. Because most of the interior of the Sun is compressed and higher density, the photosphere and interior far below the surface must be very low density (like that of a gas) to keep the average at 1.4. So we are talking about lower than normal densities and lots of empty space.

The densities where compression limits start to be a factor occur in neutron stars, where a single teaspoonful of matter weighs tons. -|Tom|-

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<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by rousejohnny</i>
<br />But if the Solar photosphere is beginning to reach the beginning limits where the energy transfer is being locally retarded through compression and high energy levels making the photosphere unable to express or reflect this energy as temperature...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Not a chance. The average density of the whole Sun is 1.4 g/cc, slightly more than water but much less than rock. Because most of the interior of the Sun is compressed and higher density, the photosphere and interior far below the surface must be very low density (like that of a gas) to keep the average at 1.4. So we are talking about lower than normal densities and lots of empty space.

The densities where compression limits start to be a factor occur in neutron stars, where a single teaspoonful of matter weighs tons. -|Tom|-
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Thanks Tom, I enjoyed the dialect, I see your point. I learned a lot in our small discussion, I think through such brainstorming much can be learned, maybe spawn ideas that are off subject. This is what I enjoy most about your site.

Hi GD, I agree with you that the lower energy state of the cold air the higher the potential to do work when heating that air. You certainly see that principle at work in nature everywhere whereby solar energy drives the differential heating of the earth creating ocean currents and our weather. Heat pumps also require a temperature difference between two areas to make the cooling or heating system function.

I was trying to make a point regarding energy, and levels of entropy as found in nature by looking at other possible scenarios regarding the Universe Dimensional Energy Paradigm. Our normal scientific viewpoint would be that the Universe was formed in a big bang, that energy levels are running down over time as the expansion continues out into the void. Thus, our viewpoint is that we see all systems as entropic and having less available energy to work with over time.

However, the viewpoint that the Atomic Mass alone stores energy and over time becomes more entropic may be incorrect and does not actually take into consideration other possible sources of energy that are released from higher dimensional stresses. Energy levels in our Universe may not be running down at all and in fact it could be increasing locally. We are really only beginning to understand a possible bigger picture that places gravity at tremendous speeds 20 billion times the speed of light (thanks to Tom's work), and this factor alone changes the operation of Universe because it asks the question: Where do such incredible energies originate?

There are some reports that say that our solar system is currently under an increase in energy bombardment that is causing major solar system wide changes. Dr. Dmitriev report found at cyberspaceorbit:

"The Solar System

.....Then comes the information out of Russia last month, from the Russian National Academy of Science in Siberia, where scientists have come to the conclusion that we have moved into an area of space that is different and has a much higher energy level.

The Russians are reporting changes that are being recorded in space that have never been seen before. We cannot verify this information "for certain," but we do know that the scientific body reporting it is real, and that a Dr. Dmitriev does head this body. Also, I have personally been before the Russian National Academy of Science, in Moscow.

Speaking for the Academy in Siberia, Dr. Dmitriev says that the effects reported below have been observed (these are not quotes from Dr. Dmitriev, but extracts from his report).

Changes to the Leading Edge of the Heliosphere

The Sun itself has a magnetic field, and that magnetic field creates an "egg" around the Solar System that is known as the "heliosphere." The heliosphere is shaped like a teardrop, with the long, thin end of the drop pointing away from the direction in which we're traveling.

The Russians have looked at the leading edge of this heliosphere, and they have observed glowing, excited plasma energy there. The Sun's heliosphere used to be 10 astronomical units deep (an astronomical unit is the distance from the Earth to the Sun, approximately 93 million miles) — 10 astronomical units was the "normal" thickness of this glowing energy that we used to see at the front end of the Solar System.

Today, Dr. Dmitriev says that this glowing energy is now 100 astronomical units deep.

The Russian National Academy of Sciences doesn't give us a time-line, but the change from what was known and accepted to the way it is now represents a 1000 percent increase.

And the Russians say that this change in the Sun is changing how the planets function and what kind of life they could support. They even report — but don't explain — that the DNA spiral itself is altering. They feel that the continued expansion of the heliosphere will eventually take us into a new level of energy, that there will probably be a sudden expansion of the basic harmonic wavelengths that the Sun emits as it radiates energy out of itself, and that this increase in energy emission will change the basic nature of all matter in the Solar System.

That's a pretty bold statement, but it's followed by data to back it up:

The atmospheres of five of the planets and the Earth's moon are changing.

When the United States landed on the moon in 1969, it found no atmosphere. Since then, the earth's moon is growing an atmosphere that wasn't there before, made up of a compound that Dr. Dmitriev refers to as "Natrium." This new atmosphere is now 6,000 kilometers deep.

The earth's atmosphere in the upper levels is forming HO gas that was not there before. It simply did not exist in the quantity that it does now. The Russians say it's not related to global warming and it's not related to CFCs or fluorocarbon emissions or anything like that. It's just showing up.

The Martian atmosphere is getting sizably thicker than it was before. The Mars Observer probe in 1997 lost one of its mirrors, which caused it to crash. This happened because the atmosphere was about twice as dense as NASA had calculated. Basically, the wind on that little mirror was so high that it blew it right off.

The atmospheres of Jupiter, Uranus and Neptune also are changing, according to the Russians, but they didn't explain.

The brightness of the planets is changing.

Venus is showing marked increases in its overall brightness.

Jupiter's energetic charge has risen so high that there is actually a visible tube of ionizing radiation that's formed between the surface of Jupiter and its moon Io. You can actually see the luminous energy tube in photographs that have been taken recently.

Uranus and Neptune also are becoming brighter.

The magnetic fields are changing.

Jupiter's magnetic field has more than doubled.

Uranus's magnetic field is changing — no explanation.

Neptune's magnetic field is increasing.

All three of these planets are becoming brighter, and their atmospheric qualities, say the Russians, are changing — but they do not explain what is meant by this.

What's truly amazing, since some people here on Earth have been expecting and predicting a pole shift for some time now, is that the Russians report that Uranus and Neptune appear to have had recent pole shifts. When the Voyager II space probe flew past Uranus and Neptune, the apparent north and south magnetic poles were sizably offset from where the rotational pole was in earlier recordings. In one case, it was 50 degrees off, and in the other case the difference was around 40 degrees." www.cyberspaceorbit.com/sunboggl.htm



Entropy, a measure of the energy in a system or process that is unavailable to do work. In a reversible thermodynamic process, entropy is expressed as the heat absorbed or emitted divided by the absolute temperature.

I was referring to the possibility that "Free Energy" may be more than what can be released with in any given atomic reaction. Maybe the energy state of any given atomic or molecular reaction has other unknown variables that defy normal explanation. Take for instance, ball lightning that certainly is an excited plasma state and behaves as if it is almost in another dimension. The plasma can pierce right through a key hole and reform into a ball and emite very little heat passing right next to a person without harm, that is until it explodes then tremendous heat and charge can kill a person.

As I mentioned in the previous message about the Hydrogen Plasma's releasing tremendous energies. One possible explanation is that somehow the nucleus stores a huge charge much like a capacitor, or a conduit is briefly openned up to a higher dimensional flow of energies that are at frequencies much greater then light and because these higher frequencies are not detectable we only see the downgraded results of this energy release.

So, I do think that our normal viewpoint of mass converting to energy is limited at best. There is just too much of a difference between energy levels from fire to atomic blasts to not have openned up some sort of dimensional energy window. In any regards, the tremendous heating of the coronal discharge shows that this resonance that is taking place within our sun must also interface to other more extreme frequencies that mankind at this time is not able to detect.

John

John,

I think we should find solutions instead of creating other inexplicable phenomenon that could miraculously solve problems (ie: other dimensional stresses, unknown variables that defy normal explanation).

Your statement on the glowing, excited plasma that is the sun's helioshere is troubling at best. This means we are entering a high entropy region of the galaxy.
This will definitely affect the potential of our solar system.

John, when atoms glow, this means less potential energy for the atom, and not the other way around.

I think it all comes down to how we want to perceive our universe. Since man is above all, then this implies that the universe shall be indestructible.

Hi GD,

Here is an abstract from Blacklightpower regarding the plasma technology that may revolutionize our ability to tap a new source of energy:

BlackLightTM SMPower Inc. (“BLP” or the “Company”) of Cranbury, New Jersey, is developing a patented revolutionary technology based on novel hydrogen chemistry. More
explicitly, energy is catalytically released as the electrons of atomic hydrogen are induced to
undergo transitions to lower energy levels corresponding to fractional quantum numbers with the
production of plasma, light, heat, and novel hydrogen compounds [1–33]. The Company uses a
chemically generated or assisted plasma to form atomic hydrogen and a catalyst, which react
through a nonradiative energy transfer to form lower-energy hydrogen atoms called hydrinos.
Since hydrinos have energy levels much lower than uncatalyzed hydrogen atoms, the energy
release is intermediate between chemical and nuclear energies. The net enthalpy released may be
over several hundred times that of combustion with power densities rivaling that of the internal
combustion (IC) engine. Thus, the catalysis of atomic hydrogen represents a new source of
energy with H2Oas the source of hydrogen fuel obtained by diverting a fraction of the output energy of the process to split water into its elemental constituents. Moreover, rather than air
pollutants or radioactive waste, novel hydride compounds with potential commercial applications
are the products [25–31]. The BlackLight Process offers a prospectively efficient, clean, cheap,
and very versatile thermal energy source. One of the near term potential applications of its
technology is in the HVAC market. Since the power is in the form of a plasma, high-efficiency,
low-cost direct energy conversion may be also be possible, thus, avoiding a heat engine such as a
turbine [32–33] or a reformer-fuel-cell system. Additionally, power not converted to electricity
may be used for space and process heating with high temperature capability. Significantly lower
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The short explanation is that existing physics does not fully explain higher energy sources that may exist in our Universe. If we do not evolve our thinking quickly then we will be utilizing an antiquated energy paradigm that will continue to cause further hardships upon our economy as oil prices continue to rise, and upon the third world causing further pressures and deterioration of social conditions.

Here is a recent article that defines the problem:

FORGET THE THREAT OF TERRORISM. CHINA IS ABOUT TO FLICK THE SWITCH ON A GLOBAL ENERGY CRISIS AND A TIME BOMB THAT WILL BRING MASSIVE DESTRUCTION WORLDWIDE

www.sundayherald.com/43523


John