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The entropy of systems
20 years 2 months ago #11687
by GD
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I think some of these anomalies (stated in the link below) are not misunderstood:
www.science-frontiers.com/cat-astr.htm
You will find under "AYB2" what I have been questioning.
You will find under "AYB2" what I have been questioning.
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20 years 1 month ago #11689
by GD
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I watched the eclipse of the moon last night, and I couldn't help notice the color (brownish red) of the moon during this event.
Now this would be a perfect example of this theory: the sun's light passing through the atmosphere of the earth energizes the atoms which in turn emits a frequency giving off this coloration. the moon being a perfect canvas to catch this visual effect.
According to this theory (entropy of the atom), this color might have varied in the past (orange-brown to a deep red-brown).
Since the sun's luminosity varies between solar min. to solar max. activity,then this will affect the coloration.
What I have to compare then, is the moon's eclipse at the same period in the solar cycle.
I will try to find info on this.
Now this would be a perfect example of this theory: the sun's light passing through the atmosphere of the earth energizes the atoms which in turn emits a frequency giving off this coloration. the moon being a perfect canvas to catch this visual effect.
According to this theory (entropy of the atom), this color might have varied in the past (orange-brown to a deep red-brown).
Since the sun's luminosity varies between solar min. to solar max. activity,then this will affect the coloration.
What I have to compare then, is the moon's eclipse at the same period in the solar cycle.
I will try to find info on this.
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20 years 1 month ago #11690
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by GD</i>
<br />As John mentioned earlier, all the planets and the sun seem to be affected at the same time.
The sun's activity reflects the changing potential of the whole solar system.
The way I see it, the solar sytem's trajectory follows a "cork screw"
type of path through the galaxy accelerating to a max. when the elliptical orbit of jupiter brings it closest to the sun. Therefore there is a wobbling effect which is amplified by variations of speed of the solar system.
I think this motion has some influence on the speed of rotation of the upper layers of the sun, going faster while jupiter is closest and the solar system's acceleration is at a max.
Maybe this is where the entropy of a system comes into play: acceleration of matter is compensated by less potential (free) energy for matter.
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I am gonna throw one of my brainstroms in on this subject. I recall Dr. VF explaining in another thread about the center of gravity for earth/moon/sun. If we find the center of gravity for all the planetary systems and the sun and calculate if and how frequently this center revolves around the sun, we may get some clue. This is just pure speculation, but interesting none the less. If there is a wobble in our solar system progression through the galaxy, the effect may have internal causation.
<br />As John mentioned earlier, all the planets and the sun seem to be affected at the same time.
The sun's activity reflects the changing potential of the whole solar system.
The way I see it, the solar sytem's trajectory follows a "cork screw"
type of path through the galaxy accelerating to a max. when the elliptical orbit of jupiter brings it closest to the sun. Therefore there is a wobbling effect which is amplified by variations of speed of the solar system.
I think this motion has some influence on the speed of rotation of the upper layers of the sun, going faster while jupiter is closest and the solar system's acceleration is at a max.
Maybe this is where the entropy of a system comes into play: acceleration of matter is compensated by less potential (free) energy for matter.
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I am gonna throw one of my brainstroms in on this subject. I recall Dr. VF explaining in another thread about the center of gravity for earth/moon/sun. If we find the center of gravity for all the planetary systems and the sun and calculate if and how frequently this center revolves around the sun, we may get some clue. This is just pure speculation, but interesting none the less. If there is a wobble in our solar system progression through the galaxy, the effect may have internal causation.
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20 years 1 month ago #11725
by Jim
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Just to be clear here you are suggesting entrophy is slowing down the solar system and the atom-right or wrong? As you know from prior posting on entrophy my opinion is that entrophy is not a force. Since what you are suggesting requires force it is false or else you have a way of slowing anything without force. I may be confused about this.
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20 years 1 month ago #11691
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by GD</i>
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Since the sun's luminosity varies between solar min. to solar max. activity,then this will affect the coloration.
What I have to compare then, is the moon's eclipse at the same period in the solar cycle.
I will try to find info on this.
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I found somewhat of an answer: The lunar eclipse seems to be brighter with the passing years. This means the energy output of the sun is increasing.
Here's the link for the lunar eclipse article:
www.space.com/spacewatch/eclipse_wrap_031108.html
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Since the sun's luminosity varies between solar min. to solar max. activity,then this will affect the coloration.
What I have to compare then, is the moon's eclipse at the same period in the solar cycle.
I will try to find info on this.
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I found somewhat of an answer: The lunar eclipse seems to be brighter with the passing years. This means the energy output of the sun is increasing.
Here's the link for the lunar eclipse article:
www.space.com/spacewatch/eclipse_wrap_031108.html
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20 years 1 month ago #12066
by GD
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Jim</i>
<br />Just to be clear here you are suggesting entrophy is slowing down the solar system and the atom-right or wrong? <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Hello Jim,
I think the speed of the solar system is not constant. The climate in the past has varied between glaciations and warming periods. I am suggesting that the sun plays a major role and not the "ocean current displacement" theory and other atmospheric occurences which is triggering climate change.
Whatever happens to the orbital dynamics of planets, atmospheric variations, geophysics, and the rest... is directly linked to the potential (entropy) of the sun.
It is the reason why I am trying to link the motion behavior of the sun while it is moving around the center of the galaxy: The greater the acceleration of the solar system is, the higher is its entropy.
I am assuming the solar system is now in an accelerating phase.
I have read in some other article that the motion of the solar system is moving in a wave-like fashion* with a period of approx. 100000 years (I do not know what this would represent in terms of distance.) perpendicular to the ecliptic of the galaxy. (I had previously thought this to be in the plane of the ecliptic).
*The reason for this motion I do not understand. Maybe it is the wobbling effect of the solar system which is responsible, or maybe its present position in the galaxy.
<br />Just to be clear here you are suggesting entrophy is slowing down the solar system and the atom-right or wrong? <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Hello Jim,
I think the speed of the solar system is not constant. The climate in the past has varied between glaciations and warming periods. I am suggesting that the sun plays a major role and not the "ocean current displacement" theory and other atmospheric occurences which is triggering climate change.
Whatever happens to the orbital dynamics of planets, atmospheric variations, geophysics, and the rest... is directly linked to the potential (entropy) of the sun.
It is the reason why I am trying to link the motion behavior of the sun while it is moving around the center of the galaxy: The greater the acceleration of the solar system is, the higher is its entropy.
I am assuming the solar system is now in an accelerating phase.
I have read in some other article that the motion of the solar system is moving in a wave-like fashion* with a period of approx. 100000 years (I do not know what this would represent in terms of distance.) perpendicular to the ecliptic of the galaxy. (I had previously thought this to be in the plane of the ecliptic).
*The reason for this motion I do not understand. Maybe it is the wobbling effect of the solar system which is responsible, or maybe its present position in the galaxy.
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