- Thank you received: 0
Postulate: Round Craters are Not From Asteroids
20 years 10 months ago #7572
by Meta
Replied by Meta on topic Reply from Robert Grace
Toms picture PostedÊ-Ê19 Dec 2003 : 12:00:26: Small round craters? Are all your craters from one event? No one knows. Do they all point in the same direction? No one knows. I see an elliptical crater which could be 2 or 3 plasma strikes in the same place.
Astrodelugologist Posted - 19 Dec 2003 Mars: Orcus Patera crater. How do you know its a meteor strike crater? Its curved slightly. What direction is it aligned to? Exactly like the rest of these so called gashes? Just because there is a straight line on the surface of this slightly curved ellipse doesnt mean meteor strike. Did you rule out all the other Occams Razor explanations before jumping onto the Meteor strike bandwagon?
Astrodelugologist PostedÊ-Ê19 Dec 2003 : 15:42:10 Moon: Shiller crater. This one looks like a flat bottomed crater. flat and featureless. Simple because it is long is no reason to assume it is a glancing asteroid strike. Again, is it pointing in the same direction as all the other supposed glancing meteor strikes? No one checked.
Astrodelugologist Posted- 19 Dec 2003 Venus: Graham A long flat bottomed oblong shape which could be created by any number of flowing geologic processes upon a very plastic surface. Again, is it pointing in the same direction as all the other supposed glancing meteor strikes? No one checked.
Astrodelugologist Posted- 19 Dec 2003 Valles Marineris. It even has the white surface discharge marks similar to the golfcourse gif in the holoscience link of the high voltage lightning after it hit the flagmarker pole. This was completely overlooked. The similarity of Mars Valles Marineris and Earths Grand Canyon is unmistakably signatures of high voltage discharge.
Astrodelugologist PostedÊ-Ê19 Dec 2003 : 19:02:57 Moon: Crater AS15-9254(P). What is this three sides blast scatter supposed to prove? Some kind of less than perpendicular meteor strike? In what direction was it heading? In the same direction as the other poor examples?
PostedÊ-Ê19 Dec 2003 :Ê19:02:57 Mars: Crater at base of Ceraunius Tholus. What are these lines supposed to prove? Oblique meteor strikes digging trenches in the surface of which none of the lines are parallel to support that they were from one single direction. its such a messy picture Im wondering why anyone would offer it as evidence of any meteor strike. The Mars Valles Marineris and Earths Grand Canyon pics I posted should easily lead you to concluse what plasma bolts can do to create lines on the surface.
Crater in Eros Vallis (possible source of ALH84001). Hardly an extreme example I asked for. Its almost round.
Gullied craters 41degS (includes large elliptical crater at bottom left and small elliptical crater near top). Do you see the tell tale peak in the middle of the large crater? Definate plasma bolt eruption sign that pulls earth right up the bolt. And I dont see any gullies anywhere.
Larry B: But I try to keep an open mind. Absense of evidence is not, after all, evidence of absence. If Thor ever decides to put on a light show for us, I guess I'd have to reconsider. Til then I think I'll stick with volcanos and meteors as the most likely explanation.
Meta: If you understood where Thor is putting on a light show today you would think again.
Astrodelugeologist: Your second *.gif image of a plasma "crater" has no rays. I suspect, then, that they have altogether different origins.
Meta: This gif is a plasma strike on metal foil, if you would have read the introduction. Metal foil is not dirt which scatters easily. If the voltage is high enough it can even make metal scatter over the surface.
Tom: So we have a known cause that *must* be acting and seems sufficient. We presently have no need for another cause.
Meta: a priori, adj.
1. Proceeding from a known or assumed cause to a necessarily related effect; deductive.
2. Based on a hypothesis or theory rather than on experiment or experience.
3. Made before or without examination; not supported by factual study.
www.metaresearch.org/solar%20system/cydo...roof_files/proof.asp
Permit me to quote you:
Proof that the Cydonia Face on Mars is Artificial by Tom Van Flandern
"Strictly speaking, science does not prove physical hypotheses; it disproves them. In that sense, all we have done, technically, is rule out the natural origin hypothesis at the cited odds. However, unless we can formulate some other hypothesis competing with artificiality that makes similar a priori predictions, we are compelled to accept artificiality as the most reasonable explanation consistent with the a priori principle of scientific method."
Tom Van Flandern
Meta: Plasma Strike Theory is that Other Hypothesis Competing with Asteroid and Exploded Planet Theory that makes Similar A Priori Predictions"
Meta
MetPhys@aol.com
rgrace@rgrace.org
www.rgrace.org/index.html
Impossible Correspondence
Astrodelugologist Posted - 19 Dec 2003 Mars: Orcus Patera crater. How do you know its a meteor strike crater? Its curved slightly. What direction is it aligned to? Exactly like the rest of these so called gashes? Just because there is a straight line on the surface of this slightly curved ellipse doesnt mean meteor strike. Did you rule out all the other Occams Razor explanations before jumping onto the Meteor strike bandwagon?
Astrodelugologist PostedÊ-Ê19 Dec 2003 : 15:42:10 Moon: Shiller crater. This one looks like a flat bottomed crater. flat and featureless. Simple because it is long is no reason to assume it is a glancing asteroid strike. Again, is it pointing in the same direction as all the other supposed glancing meteor strikes? No one checked.
Astrodelugologist Posted- 19 Dec 2003 Venus: Graham A long flat bottomed oblong shape which could be created by any number of flowing geologic processes upon a very plastic surface. Again, is it pointing in the same direction as all the other supposed glancing meteor strikes? No one checked.
Astrodelugologist Posted- 19 Dec 2003 Valles Marineris. It even has the white surface discharge marks similar to the golfcourse gif in the holoscience link of the high voltage lightning after it hit the flagmarker pole. This was completely overlooked. The similarity of Mars Valles Marineris and Earths Grand Canyon is unmistakably signatures of high voltage discharge.
Astrodelugologist PostedÊ-Ê19 Dec 2003 : 19:02:57 Moon: Crater AS15-9254(P). What is this three sides blast scatter supposed to prove? Some kind of less than perpendicular meteor strike? In what direction was it heading? In the same direction as the other poor examples?
PostedÊ-Ê19 Dec 2003 :Ê19:02:57 Mars: Crater at base of Ceraunius Tholus. What are these lines supposed to prove? Oblique meteor strikes digging trenches in the surface of which none of the lines are parallel to support that they were from one single direction. its such a messy picture Im wondering why anyone would offer it as evidence of any meteor strike. The Mars Valles Marineris and Earths Grand Canyon pics I posted should easily lead you to concluse what plasma bolts can do to create lines on the surface.
Crater in Eros Vallis (possible source of ALH84001). Hardly an extreme example I asked for. Its almost round.
Gullied craters 41degS (includes large elliptical crater at bottom left and small elliptical crater near top). Do you see the tell tale peak in the middle of the large crater? Definate plasma bolt eruption sign that pulls earth right up the bolt. And I dont see any gullies anywhere.
Larry B: But I try to keep an open mind. Absense of evidence is not, after all, evidence of absence. If Thor ever decides to put on a light show for us, I guess I'd have to reconsider. Til then I think I'll stick with volcanos and meteors as the most likely explanation.
Meta: If you understood where Thor is putting on a light show today you would think again.
Astrodelugeologist: Your second *.gif image of a plasma "crater" has no rays. I suspect, then, that they have altogether different origins.
Meta: This gif is a plasma strike on metal foil, if you would have read the introduction. Metal foil is not dirt which scatters easily. If the voltage is high enough it can even make metal scatter over the surface.
Tom: So we have a known cause that *must* be acting and seems sufficient. We presently have no need for another cause.
Meta: a priori, adj.
1. Proceeding from a known or assumed cause to a necessarily related effect; deductive.
2. Based on a hypothesis or theory rather than on experiment or experience.
3. Made before or without examination; not supported by factual study.
www.metaresearch.org/solar%20system/cydo...roof_files/proof.asp
Permit me to quote you:
Proof that the Cydonia Face on Mars is Artificial by Tom Van Flandern
"Strictly speaking, science does not prove physical hypotheses; it disproves them. In that sense, all we have done, technically, is rule out the natural origin hypothesis at the cited odds. However, unless we can formulate some other hypothesis competing with artificiality that makes similar a priori predictions, we are compelled to accept artificiality as the most reasonable explanation consistent with the a priori principle of scientific method."
Tom Van Flandern
Meta: Plasma Strike Theory is that Other Hypothesis Competing with Asteroid and Exploded Planet Theory that makes Similar A Priori Predictions"
Meta
MetPhys@aol.com
rgrace@rgrace.org
www.rgrace.org/index.html
Impossible Correspondence
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
20 years 10 months ago #7542
by Meta
Replied by Meta on topic Reply from Robert Grace
Addenda:
To All:
Good grief, I had finished posting the last message yesterday and all of a sudden my computer couldnt access the Forum again as if the IP was blocked or the account seemed cancelled. Do you happen to know why any sneaky little computer virus would do such a thing?
Meta
To All:
Good grief, I had finished posting the last message yesterday and all of a sudden my computer couldnt access the Forum again as if the IP was blocked or the account seemed cancelled. Do you happen to know why any sneaky little computer virus would do such a thing?
Meta
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Larry Burford
- Offline
- Platinum Member
Less
More
- Thank you received: 0
20 years 10 months ago #7762
by Larry Burford
Replied by Larry Burford on topic Reply from Larry Burford
I had similar access problems several times in the last 24 hours. I don't think you have angered the Moderator God.
LB
LB
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- tvanflandern
- Offline
- Platinum Member
Less
More
- Thank you received: 0
20 years 10 months ago #7650
by tvanflandern
Replied by tvanflandern on topic Reply from Tom Van Flandern
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Larry Burford</i>
<br />I had similar access problems several times in the last 24 hours. I don't think you have angered the Moderator God.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Sometimes the Webmaster God (who, I remind you, is not me) tugs on a tiny thread with major reprecussions for the universe. We all experienced a disturbance in "the force". [] -|Tom|-
<br />I had similar access problems several times in the last 24 hours. I don't think you have angered the Moderator God.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Sometimes the Webmaster God (who, I remind you, is not me) tugs on a tiny thread with major reprecussions for the universe. We all experienced a disturbance in "the force". [] -|Tom|-
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
20 years 10 months ago #7651
by Meta
Replied by Meta on topic Reply from Robert Grace
Im learning that if one probes, too deeply, up the nose of the universe it devises a plan to get you for it.
Meta
Meta
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
20 years 10 months ago #7953
by Mac
Replied by Mac on topic Reply from Dan McCoin
Meta,
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><b>Good grief, I had finished posting the last message yesterday and all of a sudden my computer couldnt access the Forum again as if the IP was blocked or the account seemed cancelled. Do you happen to know why any sneaky little computer virus would do such a thing?</b><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Ditto to LB and Toms commments.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><b>Im learning that if one probes, too deeply, up the nose of the universe it devises a plan to get you for it.</b><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
WoW! Paranoid and a pessimist too.[]
"Imagination is more important than Knowledge" -- Albert Einstien
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><b>Good grief, I had finished posting the last message yesterday and all of a sudden my computer couldnt access the Forum again as if the IP was blocked or the account seemed cancelled. Do you happen to know why any sneaky little computer virus would do such a thing?</b><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Ditto to LB and Toms commments.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><b>Im learning that if one probes, too deeply, up the nose of the universe it devises a plan to get you for it.</b><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
WoW! Paranoid and a pessimist too.[]
"Imagination is more important than Knowledge" -- Albert Einstien
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Time to create page: 0.429 seconds