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Antigravity Research
16 years 9 months ago #20594
by Stoat
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In GD's thread on entropy I was looking at the speed of gravity(again[][)][]) and I got something pretty close to Greg87's idea that it was about C^2 times as large as c.
That done, I'm off to do some greek translation and not bother with physics for a month or so.
That done, I'm off to do some greek translation and not bother with physics for a month or so.
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16 years 9 months ago #20494
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BINARY STARS, EVIDENCE OF UNBROKEN SYMMETRY?
I am now searching for just how antigravitons exit the forward time portion of MASS REGENERATION in visible universe. Most likely we should see sub-atomic high spin states with a toroidal gun like interaction as Gravitons demodulate in nucleons causing mass regeneration of waveforms, and then reverse and exit as an Antigraviton. Spin reversal changes charge from negative to positive and overall pattern of Antigraviton motion advances at FTL speeds in front of this 3D motion as a 4D class wave pattern. My thoughts are that this nucleonic antimatter sub-pair particles form around the nossle [torus???] of this processing of the wave reversal.
Here is further evidence of Binary Stars, graviton interactions creating antimatter:
VAST CLOUD OF ANTIMATTER TRACED TO BINARY STARS
"ScienceDaily (Jan. 10, 2008) — Four years of observations from the European Space Agency’s Integral (INTErnational Gamma-Ray Astrophysics Laboratory) satellite may have cleared up one of the most vexing mysteries in our Milky Way: the origin of a giant cloud of antimatter surrounding the galactic center.
Integral found that the cloud extends farther on the western side of the galactic center than it does on the eastern side. This imbalance matches the distribution of a population of binary star systems that contain black holes or neutron stars, strongly suggesting that these binaries are churning out at least half of the antimatter, and perhaps all of it.
"The reported Integral detection of an asymmetry represents a significant step forward toward a solution of one of the major outstanding problems in high-energy astrophysics. I think I can hear a collective sigh of relief emanating from the community," says Marvin Leventhal, a University of Maryland professor emeritus and a pioneer in this field.
The cloud itself is roughly 10,000 light-years across, and generates the energy of about 10,000 Suns. The cloud shines brightly in gamma rays due to a reaction governed by Einstein’s famous equation E=mc^2. Negatively charged subatomic particles known as electrons collide with their antimatter counterparts, positively charged positrons. When electrons and positrons meet, they can annihilate one another and convert all of their mass into gamma rays with energies of 511,000 electron-volts (511 keV).
The antimatter cloud was discovered in the 1970s by gamma-ray detectors flown on balloons. Scientists have proposed a wide range of explanations for the origin of the antimatter, which is exceedingly rare in the cosmos. For years, many theories centered around radioactive elements produced in supernovae, prodigious stellar explosions. Others suggested that the positrons come from neutron stars, novae, or colliding stellar winds.
In recent years, some theorists championed the idea that particles of dark matter were annihilating one another, or with atomic matter, producing electrons and positrons that annihilate into 511-keV gamma rays. But other scientists remained skeptical, noting that the dark matter particles had to be significantly lighter than most theories predicted.
"The Integral results seem to rule out dark matter as the major source of the gamma rays," says the Nature paper’s second author Gerry Skinner, who currently works at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md., Skinner is a co-investigator of Integral’s SPI (SPectrometer for Integral) instrument, which made this discovery.
Integral found certain types of binary systems near the galactic center are also skewed to the west. These systems are known as hard low-mass X-ray binaries, since they light up in high-energy (hard) X-rays as gas from a low-mass star spirals into a companion black hole or neutron star. Because the two "pictures" of antimatter and hard low-mass X-ray binaries line up strongly suggests the binaries are producing significant amounts of positrons.
"Simple estimates suggest that about half and possibly all the antimatter is coming from X-ray binaries," says Georg Weidenspointer of the Max Planck Institute for Extraterrestrial Physics in Germany, lead author of the Nature paper.
While Integral’s discovery clears up one mystery, it raises a new one. Scientists don’t understand how low-mass X-ray binaries could produce enough positrons to explain the cloud, and they also don’t know how they escape from these systems. "We expected something unexpected, but we did not expect this," says Skinner. The antimatter is probably produced in a region near the neutron stars and black holes, where powerful magnetic fields launch jets of particles that rip through space at near-light speed.
NASA’s Gamma-ray Large Area Space Telescope (GLAST), scheduled to launch in 2008, may help clarify how objects such as black holes launch particle jets. Conceivably, it could even detect higher-energy gamma rays from heavier types of dark matter particles annihilating one another.
Launched in 2002, Integral is an international mission involving scientists and engineers from dozens of nations. NASA contributed scientists, hardware, and software for Integral, including part of the SPI instrument."
www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080109173722.htm
Again we find that our theories involving matter and antimatter have skewed the data to incorrect interpretations of how mass fluctuations are regenerated by the 4D FTL Graviton cycle. We fail miserably to understand how motion is maintained in our Universe. Big Bang Theory, Baryogenesis Models, Dark Matter, CP violations, are all artifacts of this incorrect hypothesis. Even E=MC2 paired with SR speed limits does not accurately measure the actual energy cycles of our Universe. Energy=Mass x Graviton squared! Fortunately [not always!!!], because our scale operates at lower speeds of motion the interactions are reduced to C: However, until we can understand this 4D relationship with the GRAVITON CYCLE our physics will we remain ignorant to the fact that this ageless Universe is far older then we can ever imagine. John
I am now searching for just how antigravitons exit the forward time portion of MASS REGENERATION in visible universe. Most likely we should see sub-atomic high spin states with a toroidal gun like interaction as Gravitons demodulate in nucleons causing mass regeneration of waveforms, and then reverse and exit as an Antigraviton. Spin reversal changes charge from negative to positive and overall pattern of Antigraviton motion advances at FTL speeds in front of this 3D motion as a 4D class wave pattern. My thoughts are that this nucleonic antimatter sub-pair particles form around the nossle [torus???] of this processing of the wave reversal.
Here is further evidence of Binary Stars, graviton interactions creating antimatter:
VAST CLOUD OF ANTIMATTER TRACED TO BINARY STARS
"ScienceDaily (Jan. 10, 2008) — Four years of observations from the European Space Agency’s Integral (INTErnational Gamma-Ray Astrophysics Laboratory) satellite may have cleared up one of the most vexing mysteries in our Milky Way: the origin of a giant cloud of antimatter surrounding the galactic center.
Integral found that the cloud extends farther on the western side of the galactic center than it does on the eastern side. This imbalance matches the distribution of a population of binary star systems that contain black holes or neutron stars, strongly suggesting that these binaries are churning out at least half of the antimatter, and perhaps all of it.
"The reported Integral detection of an asymmetry represents a significant step forward toward a solution of one of the major outstanding problems in high-energy astrophysics. I think I can hear a collective sigh of relief emanating from the community," says Marvin Leventhal, a University of Maryland professor emeritus and a pioneer in this field.
The cloud itself is roughly 10,000 light-years across, and generates the energy of about 10,000 Suns. The cloud shines brightly in gamma rays due to a reaction governed by Einstein’s famous equation E=mc^2. Negatively charged subatomic particles known as electrons collide with their antimatter counterparts, positively charged positrons. When electrons and positrons meet, they can annihilate one another and convert all of their mass into gamma rays with energies of 511,000 electron-volts (511 keV).
The antimatter cloud was discovered in the 1970s by gamma-ray detectors flown on balloons. Scientists have proposed a wide range of explanations for the origin of the antimatter, which is exceedingly rare in the cosmos. For years, many theories centered around radioactive elements produced in supernovae, prodigious stellar explosions. Others suggested that the positrons come from neutron stars, novae, or colliding stellar winds.
In recent years, some theorists championed the idea that particles of dark matter were annihilating one another, or with atomic matter, producing electrons and positrons that annihilate into 511-keV gamma rays. But other scientists remained skeptical, noting that the dark matter particles had to be significantly lighter than most theories predicted.
"The Integral results seem to rule out dark matter as the major source of the gamma rays," says the Nature paper’s second author Gerry Skinner, who currently works at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md., Skinner is a co-investigator of Integral’s SPI (SPectrometer for Integral) instrument, which made this discovery.
Integral found certain types of binary systems near the galactic center are also skewed to the west. These systems are known as hard low-mass X-ray binaries, since they light up in high-energy (hard) X-rays as gas from a low-mass star spirals into a companion black hole or neutron star. Because the two "pictures" of antimatter and hard low-mass X-ray binaries line up strongly suggests the binaries are producing significant amounts of positrons.
"Simple estimates suggest that about half and possibly all the antimatter is coming from X-ray binaries," says Georg Weidenspointer of the Max Planck Institute for Extraterrestrial Physics in Germany, lead author of the Nature paper.
While Integral’s discovery clears up one mystery, it raises a new one. Scientists don’t understand how low-mass X-ray binaries could produce enough positrons to explain the cloud, and they also don’t know how they escape from these systems. "We expected something unexpected, but we did not expect this," says Skinner. The antimatter is probably produced in a region near the neutron stars and black holes, where powerful magnetic fields launch jets of particles that rip through space at near-light speed.
NASA’s Gamma-ray Large Area Space Telescope (GLAST), scheduled to launch in 2008, may help clarify how objects such as black holes launch particle jets. Conceivably, it could even detect higher-energy gamma rays from heavier types of dark matter particles annihilating one another.
Launched in 2002, Integral is an international mission involving scientists and engineers from dozens of nations. NASA contributed scientists, hardware, and software for Integral, including part of the SPI instrument."
www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080109173722.htm
Again we find that our theories involving matter and antimatter have skewed the data to incorrect interpretations of how mass fluctuations are regenerated by the 4D FTL Graviton cycle. We fail miserably to understand how motion is maintained in our Universe. Big Bang Theory, Baryogenesis Models, Dark Matter, CP violations, are all artifacts of this incorrect hypothesis. Even E=MC2 paired with SR speed limits does not accurately measure the actual energy cycles of our Universe. Energy=Mass x Graviton squared! Fortunately [not always!!!], because our scale operates at lower speeds of motion the interactions are reduced to C: However, until we can understand this 4D relationship with the GRAVITON CYCLE our physics will we remain ignorant to the fact that this ageless Universe is far older then we can ever imagine. John
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16 years 9 months ago #18287
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Regarding last post on binary star production of antimatter: "Scientists don’t understand how low-mass X-ray binaries could produce enough positrons to explain the cloud, and they also don’t know how they escape from these systems." A possible answer to this question can be found in the GRAVITON CYCLE, since antimatter jets most likely are producing 4d class ANTIGRAVITONS that become trapped in a reverse motion antimatter core with polar ring annihilation zones, or from polar grouped escaping antigravitons whereby some of these positively charged particles slow to light speed becoming positively charged positrons. In any case, the group antigraviton production will flow at FTL speeds around the greater pathway track towards the sister Antimatter portion of our scale. So, virtual positron production is the result of high concentrated jets producing ANTIGRAVITONS. Just as electric fields are concentrated around mass from GRAVITON impacts and demodulation processes.
Even though FTL gravitational forces might trap this reversal process creating an ISO-DUAL flow with matter going one way and FTL antimatter core moving in the opposite direction, the pushing effect of Antigraviton production keeps the two sides apart except at the polar regions. The Jets become the relief valve for these reversed Gravitons that are now spinning in the opposite direction as Antigravitons. Interesting that Gravitons are attracted to a positive charge, however in this case the actual reversal of graviton wave creates antimatter positive charged core [in this instance there are now two solar cores one is made up of C matter positive charged, and surrounded except at poles by a void the inner core is FTL antimatter with positive charge that rotates in opposite direction] without creating annihilations. The system works until this 4D activity becomes out of balance and then the star goes supernova. John
Even though FTL gravitational forces might trap this reversal process creating an ISO-DUAL flow with matter going one way and FTL antimatter core moving in the opposite direction, the pushing effect of Antigraviton production keeps the two sides apart except at the polar regions. The Jets become the relief valve for these reversed Gravitons that are now spinning in the opposite direction as Antigravitons. Interesting that Gravitons are attracted to a positive charge, however in this case the actual reversal of graviton wave creates antimatter positive charged core [in this instance there are now two solar cores one is made up of C matter positive charged, and surrounded except at poles by a void the inner core is FTL antimatter with positive charge that rotates in opposite direction] without creating annihilations. The system works until this 4D activity becomes out of balance and then the star goes supernova. John
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16 years 9 months ago #20791
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Hi John, got a reply from my physics guy about that stuff I posted in GD's thread. He still doesn't like the speed of gravity but I think he's looking at what I had to say. I expect he's been away at some science junket or other. I've seen group photographs of the people that attend these things, and to be perfectly honest I'd hate to go to one. People who wear black socks with open sandals are not going to be party animals I fear. I'd much rather go to the next door hotel where the sci fi writers are camped out, to nick the left field science ideas. There it would all be sex and drugs and rock and roll.[][}][8D][]
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16 years 9 months ago #3365
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Hi Stoat! I have written a ton of rock tunes. Someday maybe will record them. Speaking of rock, well just got through hanging sheetrock, had to fight gravity and man was that a back braker fortunately the beers helped. Glad you were able to talk with your friend and he is coming around to instantaneous/ftl gravity. [Scalar physics is only a GR fix and does not identify the source of gravity and point charge electric fields-local fields are result of graviton cycle-ZPE space is not neutral because we cannot see the FTL spectrum of graviton cycle.]....I agree I would be over with the Sci Fi group myself, probably would be one of the writers signing autographs. Hey, some one has to do it!
World class breakthrough technologies have been siting on the side lines for years. Mean while the main stream scientists ignore such technologies as if they do not exist because they defy normal physics. Once the inertia of these ignored technologies burst out into the open with in main stream media, watch as all of these same scientists that were once the nay sayers come running forward with there alternative views and explanations. How is it possible that a Searl SEG can perpetually sustain motion? Or, how is it possible that Randall Mills can produce a 1000:1 power ratio of sustained output from catalytic induced Hydrogen Plasmas? Both of these technologies will eventually change the world. So, if these technologies defy the laws of conservation of energy---science will be required to re-evaluate these laws.
It is obvious that we are borderline now in entering a new era where most of our cherished views will be overthrown. It may be theoretically impossible to create sub-ground states of hydrogen that release 10,000 degree temperatures as hot as the sun. However, that is exactly what Randall Mills has accomplished and these reactions have provided a new entire class of matter called hydrides as a by-product from the "Black Light Process" utilizing H20 as fuel.
That's rock n' roll, I guess I will strap on my electric guitar and belt out a new tune. John
World class breakthrough technologies have been siting on the side lines for years. Mean while the main stream scientists ignore such technologies as if they do not exist because they defy normal physics. Once the inertia of these ignored technologies burst out into the open with in main stream media, watch as all of these same scientists that were once the nay sayers come running forward with there alternative views and explanations. How is it possible that a Searl SEG can perpetually sustain motion? Or, how is it possible that Randall Mills can produce a 1000:1 power ratio of sustained output from catalytic induced Hydrogen Plasmas? Both of these technologies will eventually change the world. So, if these technologies defy the laws of conservation of energy---science will be required to re-evaluate these laws.
It is obvious that we are borderline now in entering a new era where most of our cherished views will be overthrown. It may be theoretically impossible to create sub-ground states of hydrogen that release 10,000 degree temperatures as hot as the sun. However, that is exactly what Randall Mills has accomplished and these reactions have provided a new entire class of matter called hydrides as a by-product from the "Black Light Process" utilizing H20 as fuel.
That's rock n' roll, I guess I will strap on my electric guitar and belt out a new tune. John
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16 years 9 months ago #20496
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Hi John, when I was looking for some info on Feigenbaum's constant, I found that there's a cd called that. I had a listen to a few tracks, not my style of music but interesting. Made by a band that's into chaos theory, they use the Feigenbaum numbers to create their scores. Did I send you the e book novel that I got sent by Rudy Rucker? For some strange reason he's considered one of the founders of cyberpunk sci fi. I talked to the lead singer of a tribute band called the Deed Kennedys about the claim. He said that it was because of the novel Whitelight but that Rucker was too much the scientific optimist to be a true cyberpunk. Punk rockers that can talk about literature, what is the world coming to!
On that stuff in GD's thread, I almost didn't put it up, or send it to my physics guy. I was worried about that slight increase in mass. At first I was thinking that as the gravitational energy equivalent it would be huge. That would certainly alter the refractive index of the particle. Now I'm toying with the idea that it might be an electron mass plus binding energy. I need to check that out.
On that stuff in GD's thread, I almost didn't put it up, or send it to my physics guy. I was worried about that slight increase in mass. At first I was thinking that as the gravitational energy equivalent it would be huge. That would certainly alter the refractive index of the particle. Now I'm toying with the idea that it might be an electron mass plus binding energy. I need to check that out.
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