Antigravity Research

Hmm... In a nutshell, he's claiming that the universe is rotating.

Perhaps we should put this bit of cosmicsurfer's thread in a new thread? Early days, as the data from a million galaxies needs to come in. Reading between the lines, it does sound rather like it's a case of the cat that's got the cream. [8D] If this is right, then the implications for SR and GR are quite profound.

Should we wait for the data? Or talk about what it could mean now?

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It would be very difficult to see this rotation because everything is moving forward together. If you could look through a huge void with a powerful enough telescope you might be able to see arm in motion against the backdrop of another reference point. Also, I believe that all motion is balanced between large to small scale matter and antimatter rotations so you could feasibly extrapolate from the effects of this greater motion by looking at reverse motions from antimatter jets, polar ring reverse motions and other so called hyper-dimensional geometries that appear near these reversals such as found in the pentagon on Saturn's polar region or 19.5 degree hot points on planets such as Hawaii's big island volcano's. If these reverse motion rings around Milky Way Galaxy, plasma tubes in moon orbits and electron rings like what appeared on photo's of the Moon Io are real then there certainly is a lot more energy in a resonating form being created that is looped and apparently flows in a two way current. Why? Again, all of this anomolous data point to a greater circulation that operates above light and indicates greater motion of Universe. As far as I am concerned SR and GR are incorrect assumptions on how Universe operates---no speed limits and curvature has zero effect on gravity [in fact it is just the opposite curvature is caused by gravity]. John

Hi Tom & Stoat, In reference to the Michael Lango research indicating our galaxies allignment with the "Axis of Evil." Does this axis reveal a curvature? If so it might indicate which direction the MEGA arm is moving. John

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by cosmicsurfer

In reference to the Michael Lango research indicating our galaxies allignment with the "Axis of Evil." Does this axis reveal a curvature? If so it might indicate which direction the MEGA arm is moving.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">It's too early to attach any significance to it at this point. For example, he cites our Galaxy as having a similar alignment, yet our Galaxy rotates CW when viewed from that axis, which is the opposite of the supposed dominant rotation.

Also, a review of Lango's preprint by an open-minded scientist was not favorable. See enclosure below.

I'd suggest waiting for more data and seeing if anyone agrees with Lango before theorizing about what it might mean. -|Tom|-

CRITIQUE OF LONGO PREPRINT PAPER by Martin Lopez Corredoira

1) The result of Fig. 3 shows that for a given axis (183 deg., 41 deg.) there is a correlation of ellipticity with sin(gamma) with probability to be random 3.0e-5; but there are 6e5 different positions in the whole sky (with steps of 1 deg. in declination and
right ascension), or 4e5 square degrees. Therefore, the probability to get the maximum correlation (3e-5) times the number of regions explored (4-6e5; assuming he has explored the sky with steps of 1 degree in right ascension and declination or either in regions of ~1 square degree) is of order of unity, which is possibly to happen by chance.

2) The simulations in section 5 find that the peaks in Fig. 5a are
narrower than in Fig. 4a; and indeed the 13.2-sigma detection tells us about this difference. I interpret this as some correlation of orientation of galaxies which are close to each other (already detected by other authors; see, for instance, Battaner et al. 1991, A&A, 251, 402; Trujillo et al. 2006, ApJ 640, L111). This is interesting, but I would not relate this question of the local alignment with the correlation of a given axis.

3) The correlation with WMAP looks a chance correlation. Indeed it is only with "Octopole (2)", not with the general quadrupole, octopole direction. By the way, other authors have claimed that the quadrupole/octopole axis is related to the ecliptic axis and the solar system (Copi et al. 2006, MNRAS, 367, 79). One thing is clear, either it is related to the large scale structure or to the solar
system but not both things: the solar system and the large scale
structure are not related.

I did find this article on the subject, It gives the main players in the game. space.newscientist.com/article/mg1942599...-cosmic-concern.html

Having a read of the galaxyzoo forum, it seems they have half of the entire project done, half a million spiral galaxies. We might have to wait for the papers to come out but the sample is getting bigger day by day.

My initial response after reading above article to the differing "Axis of Evil" viewpoints is that most likely it does exist. Multiple galaxies in any large MEGA arm would rotate around a local group axis, because of a magnus type effect from leading edge of forward motion of MEGA arm creating shock wave that would cause local centers of gravitation to form back eddy rotations. Large scale arms in motion around centers will also cause local group rotations just like our solar system local group moves around a local axis. No one ever points this out of course. I have not heard anyone talk about our local solar system moving around a local group axis. John