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17 years 3 days ago #19747 by cosmicsurfer
Replied by cosmicsurfer on topic Reply from John Rickey
Hi Colleen, I have looked at Dave's site and wonder what he thinks Dark Matter is? Because I do not really see a need for Dark Matter--Unless he thinks dark matter is antimatter?

I agree with your above description about forward time and not being able to see the bottom wave....which made me think about surfing. There is suppose to be a new swell today and was just checking a surf cam at a point here in the islands, saw a north and south swell hitting each other and it made me think about your analogy above. With realms above atomic scales though, there has to be regions of dominant matter and antimatter so not so sure that the anology is exactly the same without having collapsing higher frequency flux/waves-no reason for motion without separation. But it is true we can only see the foward time manifestation of the results of the two waves interacting.

There is a paper I need to find that states that the cosmological constant is zero - balanced between matter and antimatter pairs, a virtual particle soup that forms an Aether/Elysium ocean. John

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17 years 3 days ago #18298 by Cole
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When Dave speaks of Dark Matter he does not mean it in the conventional sense. He is more or less taking a known term and applying it to aether physics.

In the aether physics model there is this vast sea of energy that becomes encapsulated in discrete pockets of rotating magnetic fields (aether units) and take on a spin that is physical matter with all the concomitant features that allow it to build up into atoms etc… That sea of energy is what Dave calls “primary angular momentum.”

Matter can devolve and return to the sea. The sea itself is “dark” to us. Calling the primary angular momentum sea dark matter is a bit of a misnomer in that in the state of primary angular momentum (prior to being induced into filling an aether unit) the sea isn’t really matter yet, it is only potential matter. But to the extent that there can be no matter without that sea of energy it is not completely without merit to use the term “dark matter” when referring to that which fills aether units to become ordinary matter.

For a more comprehensive answer please go to www.16pi2.com/dark_matter.htm to read Dave’s own explanation.

I rather suspect that there is no way to reach across the divide and touch the realm where antimatter and reverse time exist. The two domains, given their inverse relationships, cancel each other out. I think further that owing to the charge differences on the aether dipole you simply cannot force the two ends together. It would be like forcing strong magnates together against their poles. I do however agree that ripples from the other realm can be detected here in our own. Where they collide one would expect the waves to fully cancel one another out, like what you saw on the ocean.

I think I’m less interested in sampling the “other side” than I am in tapping into the sea (that dividing line between us) itself. Free energy floats all around us in the material universe. Primary angular momentum should be able to be coaxed into man made pockets of rotating magnetic fields and make for good energy generators. Perhaps work on quantum dots and the like will happen onto over-unity effects that can be exploited into a new market of power generation. One can hope anyway.

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17 years 2 days ago #19756 by Stoat
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Hi Coleen, I've posted a couple of e mails over on Dave's group. He found the superlens stuff of interest. I don't think I'll tell him that I put vinegar into my belly button when I'm eating fish and chips in bed [8D][:D] Don't want him to think I'm barking mad, or common. I do use balsamic vinegar, which is a bit up market[:)]

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17 years 1 day ago #19801 by cosmicsurfer
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Hi Colleen, Yes I agree with you in terms of utilizing this greater flux that drives all mass as potential energy source. I have been busy last couple of days but want to read more of his info and looking into spin dynamics within protons. Haven't checked out Dave's group yet but will. For the most part conventional astrophysics and physics for that matter are in the dark as per understanding the two time domains, so that is why they have come up with Dark Matter as a solution to compensate higher then expected galactic rotations and the missing mass. So, basically Dave is equating Dark Matter as Aether Sea because it is not Matter yet. I would probably not call it Dark Matter because of the confusion with existing mainstream theory.

I tend to agree with Meta Model in terms of Aether/Elysium sea as an atmosphere/ocean and the Gravitons from next scale up are collapsing into this region of space driving overall envelope of the two time domains. How does Dave address hyperdimensional scale relationships with FTL and HFTL motions? I see all scales as embedded in a hyperspacial forward and reverse time domain regions, as part of a huge energy cycle.

I totally agree with you in regards to engineering overunity technologies. As noted in many articles that I have posted on anomolous energies, it is obvious that we are turning the corner not only in understanding why motion takes place in Universe but that the energy that maintains atomic integrity and motion certainly can be tapped. Major changes will happen within our lifetime especially as we see the Searl technologies come online.

John Rickey

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16 years 11 months ago #18362 by cosmicsurfer
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MARTIAN OCEANS AND THE EFFECTS OF EPH

Did Mars prior to 65 Million years ago have an Earth like atmosphere, oceans, and support a civilization? There is evidence of oceans and many anomalous structures found in NASA photo's revealing pyramids, buildings, and human like faces. Most likely Mars was a moon of the former Fifth Planet that was destroyed 65 million years ago, possibly contributing to the build up of the Tharsis bulge and impacts. However, evidence suggests that an ocean still existed up until some two million years ago, so where did the water go? Maybe there was another EPH phenomenon 3.2 million years ago [cite: TVF EPH theory info at metaresearch homepage] that occured near Mars [Maybe existing Comets are remnant of oceans from destruction of a similar planet to Mars some 3.2 million years ago], creating a shock wave [minimal impact as compared to 65 million year event that created Tharsis bulge] that blew away the atmosphere on Mars and caused everything to go into a deep freeze including the oceans, and destruction of planet added a new layer to the asteroid belt. In other words, the Martian ocean could still be there but frozen solid under a mantle of dust.

Here is an article that suggests oceans existed up until 2 million years ago:

"Ancient Martian oceans warped by redistribution of planet's mass:

Planetary scientists have tossed around the idea that Mars once had large oceans. However, the facts before them just didn’t add up. New evidence shows that the warping of Martian rock has hidden the evidence for Martian oceans—at least, until now.

About one-third of the surface of Mars once was covered with water—that is, over two million years ago. It dried up and left flat shorelines—which is a sure sign that an ocean was once present. However, today, the water is gone and so are most of the flat shorelines.

Researchers are unsure where exactly the water went—hypothesizing that it was too much water to simply evaporate. Thus, some scientists contend that some of the water remains in underground reservoirs.

They also wondered where the flat shorelines went. However, that puzzle has been solved.

Researchers have now shown that warping of the Martian rock by a movement of the Martian poles over the past two million years or so altered the flat shorelines.

The results of the findings are published in the June 14, 2007 issue of the journal Nature. U.S. planetary scientists Mark Richards and Michael Manga, both from the University of California at Berkeley (UCB), Taylor Perron, previously from UCB but now from Harvard University’s Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences, and colleagues performed the research and co-authored the Nature article.

In the paper, the researchers talk about how two oceans—the older Arabia Ocean and the younger Deuteronilus Ocean—once had two shorelines that were thousands of miles in length. Now with the water gone, scientists have always contended that the dried out shorelines were too hilly to be edges of ancient oceans.

The researchers discovered, however, that several billion years ago, a shift occurred toward the equator, which forced the shores of the two oceans to warp. This shift is likely due to a massive re-distribution of the planet’s mass. More mass was moved toward the equator and away from the poles. This is the same reason why the Earth is shaped like an oblate spheroid, a sphere with a bulging middle.

In fact, Perron states: "On planets like Mars and Earth that have an outer shell, or lithosphere, that behaves elastically, the solid surface will deform differently than the sea surface, creating a non-uniform change in the topography.”

Near the equator the shores remained flat, however as the shoreline went north or south towards the poles they warped into hilly terrains in a long wave that rose and fell (what scientists called undulated) in height as much as several kilometers along their lengths.

This change in the shoreline agreed to what happened to the axis along which the planet spins. The poles of Mars have shifted by about 1,850 miles (3,000 kilometers) over the past two or three billion years. The tilt of the rotational axis of Mars did not actually move in relations to the position of the Sun—it remained the same. However, the mass of the planet shifted.

Scientists call this shifting process true polar wander. It is known to cause topographic changes to a planet’s surface. In the case of the two Martian oceans, it caused them to change from being flat to hilly; thus, rising and falling over long distances. Scientists say that the same thing happened on the Earth, however, in distances of centimeters and meters rather than kilometers.

What does this research result mean? It adds to the possibility that large amounts of water still exist on Mars and life once existed on Mars.

A enhanced image of Mars, taken from Viking Orbiter, and topographic data, taken from the Mars Orbiter Laser Altimeter onboard the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft, shows Mars as how it might have looked two million years ago. See the image at the University of California at Berkeley’s website: www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2007/06/13_mars.shtml . Additional information about the project is also found on this website."

www.itwire.com.au/content/view/12880/1066/

John Rickey

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16 years 11 months ago #18364 by Stoat
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Hi John,In a reasonable world, we could send a letter to NASA asking them to model the EPH idea as a comparison. However, politics being what it is, they would most likely decline the invitation. I do think we should prepare questions about some of the variables in case someone knows someone who's working on the computer model.

I would hope that they have as part of said model, a model where the Earth is sans Moon, as comparison.

I once animated the surface rotation of Mars, and there's a definite wobble, where the rotation overshoots then returns. This has to create a mountain building phase but we have to allow for the energy release being partially taken up by the speed up of the planet's year. The planet when it was a moon, had a bulge where it was locked to the primary. On top of that it gets a new layer of debris. land surfaces take a very long time to recover from being loaded with ice, the same thing applies to being loaded with water and atmosphere. The rotation of the surface cannot be a simple affair where the viscous nature of the mantle is uniform round the planet. it has to move as a series of carpet rucks. We don't know that much about how this could happen with Mars. It's smaller for one thing, so slower, cooler and more treacly than Earth.

On balance, I think it would be a good idea to write that letter to NASA. "Shy bairns get nowt" as they say. Of course it will be along time before we have a definitive model of Mars but we will get different martian terrain, depending on which model of surface rotation is used.

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