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The Theory of Invariance
13 years 6 months ago #21159
by evolivid
Replied by evolivid on topic Reply from Mark Baker
Hi Cindy
1. :speed of light = [length][time]-1
-let's start with a photon and its energy its speed is
: velocty = [length][time]-1
-its energy or charge
: charge = [time][current]
: Eo = velocity * charge = [length][current]
: but Energy = [mass][length]2[time]-2
-so are you viewing Eo from its "velocity * charge" or from its "energy" ?
-if we are using energy then our photon has mass
-if we are using "velocity*charge" then our photon has no mass
- because E = mc2 E/c2 = m ... "do photons have mass"?
- and as well are you saying that that the photon has a "color or frequency"
: wavelength = [length]
: frequency = [time]-1
:speed of light = wavelength*frequency
- so if the photon is really massless and has a color or frequency and a charge then
: Eo+ = [length][time]-1[current]
: Eo- = [length][time]-1[current]-1
MARX
1. :speed of light = [length][time]-1
-let's start with a photon and its energy its speed is
: velocty = [length][time]-1
-its energy or charge
: charge = [time][current]
: Eo = velocity * charge = [length][current]
: but Energy = [mass][length]2[time]-2
-so are you viewing Eo from its "velocity * charge" or from its "energy" ?
-if we are using energy then our photon has mass
-if we are using "velocity*charge" then our photon has no mass
- because E = mc2 E/c2 = m ... "do photons have mass"?
- and as well are you saying that that the photon has a "color or frequency"
: wavelength = [length]
: frequency = [time]-1
:speed of light = wavelength*frequency
- so if the photon is really massless and has a color or frequency and a charge then
: Eo+ = [length][time]-1[current]
: Eo- = [length][time]-1[current]-1
MARX
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13 years 6 months ago #21167
by Jim
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evlo. Why not figure out how many photons are in a kilogram? You seem near to that so why not?
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13 years 6 months ago #21168
by evolivid
Replied by evolivid on topic Reply from Mark Baker
Hey Jim
I have done it before in a program I wrote in excel called wizkid about 5 years ago
all it is E/c2 = m ! so if you can give me the energy of a photon
then I will give you its mass... Deal?
Cheers
MARX
I have done it before in a program I wrote in excel called wizkid about 5 years ago
all it is E/c2 = m ! so if you can give me the energy of a photon
then I will give you its mass... Deal?
Cheers
MARX
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13 years 6 months ago #24176
by Cindy
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Hi Evolivid,
In Invariance, the blue shift experiment is one of first experiments. It is assumed that we didn't know the Relativity equation E = mcc. What I am using for the experiment are:
1. Light is electronic - magnetic wave, and
2. E = [frequency].[Planck's constant]
These are enough to get the blue shift equation, frequency f = f<font size="1">o</font id="size1">.e^(gh/cc)
In Invariance, the blue shift experiment is one of first experiments. It is assumed that we didn't know the Relativity equation E = mcc. What I am using for the experiment are:
1. Light is electronic - magnetic wave, and
2. E = [frequency].[Planck's constant]
These are enough to get the blue shift equation, frequency f = f<font size="1">o</font id="size1">.e^(gh/cc)
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13 years 6 months ago #21160
by evolivid
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Hi Cindy
E = [mass][length]2[time]-2 = Force * wavelength
so [plancks constant] must = h = [mass][length]2[time]-1 = angular momentum
and we know frequency = [time]-1
may I ask you tho Cindy what is "e" and "fo" in f = "fo.e" and is the "." mean "times" ?
g = [length][time]-2
so gh = [mass][length]3[time]-3
and cc = [length]2[time]-2
then gh/cc = [mass][length][time]-1 = Force/frequency
MARX
E = [mass][length]2[time]-2 = Force * wavelength
so [plancks constant] must = h = [mass][length]2[time]-1 = angular momentum
and we know frequency = [time]-1
may I ask you tho Cindy what is "e" and "fo" in f = "fo.e" and is the "." mean "times" ?
g = [length][time]-2
so gh = [mass][length]3[time]-3
and cc = [length]2[time]-2
then gh/cc = [mass][length][time]-1 = Force/frequency
MARX
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13 years 6 months ago #21161
by Cindy
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Hi Evolivid,
In reality, there is a phenomenon which has been realized by scientists: Frequency of light is effected in a gravitation field.
If light "flies down" in the field then its frequency increased.
If light "flies up" in the field then its frequency decreased.
In case of light flies down from A to B, in a gravitation field g, then real measurements yield frequency at B,
f <u>~</u> f<font size="1">o</font id="size1">.(1+gh/cc)
Where,
f is frequency of light measured at B.
f<font size="1">o</font id="size1"> is frequency of light measured at A.
g is gravitation of the field.
h is distance AB.
c is speed of light in vacuum.
Now, go back to the Invariance's blue shift derivation:
The Invariance's blue shift experiment is just a presentation of the phenomenon, then it state that the relation between frequencies should be an exponent function.
In Invariance's blue shift equation: f = f<font size="1">o</font id="size1">.[e^(gh/cc)].
f<font size="1">o</font id="size1"> is frequency of light at A.
f is frequency of light at B.
e is natural exponential constant, e = 2.718281828...
( e^x = 1 + x + xx/2! + xxx/3! + xxxx/4! +....)
And during the derivation, we don't deal with force or time.
Could you please take a look in this link for clearer math symbols & functions:
theoryofinvariance.blogspot.com/
Thank you for your reply,
Cindy
In reality, there is a phenomenon which has been realized by scientists: Frequency of light is effected in a gravitation field.
If light "flies down" in the field then its frequency increased.
If light "flies up" in the field then its frequency decreased.
In case of light flies down from A to B, in a gravitation field g, then real measurements yield frequency at B,
f <u>~</u> f<font size="1">o</font id="size1">.(1+gh/cc)
Where,
f is frequency of light measured at B.
f<font size="1">o</font id="size1"> is frequency of light measured at A.
g is gravitation of the field.
h is distance AB.
c is speed of light in vacuum.
Now, go back to the Invariance's blue shift derivation:
The Invariance's blue shift experiment is just a presentation of the phenomenon, then it state that the relation between frequencies should be an exponent function.
In Invariance's blue shift equation: f = f<font size="1">o</font id="size1">.[e^(gh/cc)].
f<font size="1">o</font id="size1"> is frequency of light at A.
f is frequency of light at B.
e is natural exponential constant, e = 2.718281828...
( e^x = 1 + x + xx/2! + xxx/3! + xxxx/4! +....)
And during the derivation, we don't deal with force or time.
Could you please take a look in this link for clearer math symbols & functions:
theoryofinvariance.blogspot.com/
Thank you for your reply,
Cindy
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