The implications of finding absolute proof.

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The lower section has very little in the way of "interesting" topography compared with top section.

So, I disagree with you in your comment that the original JP2 file is in fact the positive.


So the question is, why is the top two thirds light and inverted while the bottom (uninteresting) section remains in the dark?

Malcolm Scott
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I would bet anything that this is the positive:



The lower portion is dark because it's less reflective for some reason. Could be the slope, could be the reflectance of the of the material, could be in the shade. You see this sort of thing on most of the MOC images because they covered a larger swath, and it was very difficult, if not impossible for one setting of the camera to be optimized over that distance.

If you want to subject it to a vote, be my guest. I don't see what that will accomplish. I'll send an email to the webmaster at HiRise.

rd
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For some reason, your rendition came out a little darker than mine. Anyhow, here is my "unedited version" as received from HiRISE

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Malcolm Scott

Here is a cropped close up view of the image I posted above.

I have "normalized" the image so better detail can now be seen.

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For the geologists out there, it would be interesting to get an opinion as to the composition and/or nature of the "buttress" formations seen here?

Malcolm Scott

<b>[rderosa] "The lower portion is dark because it's less reflective for some reason. Could be the slope, could be the reflectance of the of the material, could be in the shade. You see this sort of thing on most of the MOC images because they covered a larger swath, and it was very difficult, if not impossible for one setting of the camera to be optimized over that distance."</b>

Date - time - latitude - longitude

Where is the terminator?

LB

Gentlemen

I think this image is critical and requires your anaglyph glasses.

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This area of the escarpment shows the tell-tale evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. As you can see here, the cliff face on the left hand side is definitively going down "into" a valley. This is absolutely consistent with a concave topographical undulation.

The wall of the cliff can be seen with protruding structures. The top of the cliff is pronounced as is the bottom of the cliff.

This is the topographical makeup of this escarpment. In my opinion, it is unequivocal in its composition and feel 100% certain than any geological specialist will concur with this finding.

However, the enigma remains and, it is my contention that the entire escarpment is in fact a "quasi hologram" constructed and contrived by a yet unknown capability which defies our current understanding.

I put this to this forum to address this anomaly for further research.

Thank you,

Malcolm Scott

<font color="orange">This area of the escarpment shows the tell-tale evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. As you can see here, the cliff face on the left hand side is definitively going down "into" a valley. This is absolutely consistent with a concave topographical undulation.

The wall of the cliff can be seen with protruding structures. The top of the cliff is pronounced as is the bottom of the cliff.

This is the topographical makeup of this escarpment. In my opinion, it is unequivocal in its composition and feel 100% certain than any geological specialist will concur with this finding.

However, the enigma remains and, it is my contention that the entire escarpment is in fact a "quasi hologram" constructed and contrived by a yet unknown capability which defies our current understanding.

I put this to this forum to address this anomaly for further research.

Thank you,

Malcolm Scott</font id="orange">

Say what?

[paraphrase of Malcolm] "The terrain goes up and down, and protrudes here and there, and a geological specialist will concur. It is enigmatic. I demand that this forum waste its time investigating this."

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You could not have been much more clear.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Larry Burford</i>
<br /><font color="orange">This area of the escarpment shows the tell-tale evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. As you can see here, the cliff face on the left hand side is definitively going down "into" a valley. This is absolutely consistent with a concave topographical undulation.

The wall of the cliff can be seen with protruding structures. The top of the cliff is pronounced as is the bottom of the cliff.

This is the topographical makeup of this escarpment. In my opinion, it is unequivocal in its composition and feel 100% certain than any geological specialist will concur with this finding.

However, the enigma remains and, it is my contention that the entire escarpment is in fact a "quasi hologram" constructed and contrived by a yet unknown capability which defies our current understanding.

I put this to this forum to address this anomaly for further research.

Thank you,

Malcolm Scott</font id="orange">

Say what?

[paraphrase of Malcolm] "The terrain goes up and down, and protrudes here and there, and a geological specialist will concur. It is enigmatic. I demand that this forum waste its time investigating this."

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You could not have been much more clear.


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Larry, like I said way back, this is just my English upbringing that steers my word usage.

No need to waste your time on this - really.

Btw, It was Tom that first brought this quote to my attention....

All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

-Arthur Schopenhauer
(1788 - 1860)

Malcolm Scott