What is "miraculous"?

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">explain it to me and other readers. What does "matter is logic" mean?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">How about this?

Logic is tht name I give to "the sum of all abstract possiblilities". [Sort of the larger "Platonic" form]

The universe we observe is that part of logic which is vomited out onto the pavement because it won't cancel out to zero. Hence, there is "something" instead of nothing at all [the more restricted "Aristotelian" form] ;o)

Matter, space, time ... is the geometric embodiment of that non-cancelling Aristotelian excess. For instance, for my purposes, a baryon is the embodiment of the concept of "one". The ultimate meaning of the "Big Bang" is "1,2,3,4,5,6, ... infinity", e.g. a beginning (again, in my philosophy only).

What others do in their philosophies is not directly my concern but I encourage their development as they serve to bring all relevant ideas and info to bear.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Skarp</i>

{Yes ...There are collisions, but not really.}

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What I've come to know about it, the collisions take place "at infinity", thus in the limit. Crossing the street in front of your house can also be described as a limiting process as per Zeno. Last time I checked, I did perfectly cross the street of width L even though L is an infinite sum.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by EBTX</i>
<br />Who would teach the course?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Why is that relevant? The rules are universal. You could self-teach if you were determined enough. But I recommended logic so you could succeed better at communication with others because logic is our one common language in science. Most people would agree that self-learning a language puts one at a handicap as compared to learning it from a good teacher because there are too many subtle nuances to pick up on your own.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">A few dozen hours listening to a professor will be of no assistance to me unless he is able to tell me something I don't already know about<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">He would teach you how to organize your thoughts into syllogisms and to spot logical fallacies. This is the "discipline" part of logic. The communication part goes hand-in-hand with it. Almost everyone in science can follow a basic syllogism:

Premise: All animals are mortal.
Premise: Man is an animal.
Conclusion: Man is mortal.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I have never found a single principle of logic which will not "drip through your fingers" when examined closely enough. This is asking the snake to eat its own tail. When it gets to its head there is necessarily some confusion. Everyone is on his own here.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">The beauty of logic is that it eliminates the very kind of "fuzzy think" you complain about. For example, what is your analysis of the above example syllogism? How does it "drip through your fingers"? -|Tom|-

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">What I've come to know about it, the collisions take place "at infinity", thus in the limit.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
How convenient

At infinity? What does that mean really?

Is it the guy named Tom who managed to talk to a guy named Bob on scale number 245,678,864,345,900 who managed to talk to a boy named Little Timmy on scale number {really really really big number} who saw an actual event take place on scale infinity? Did Little Timmy managed to slip through a crack and evade time?

What does that mean really?

A reductionist approach in scale must inevitably reduce to nothing at all {my opinion}. How does the collision take place?

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">What does "matter is logic" mean?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
EBTXs model has fundamental entities. A fundamental entity is something you apparently cannot fathom.
It is free of foreign contamination or corruption. On the conceptual level it is the quintessence of one {The flagpole of logic}. The connection between matter and logic cannot be broken.

If I'm not mistaken - This is what EBTX is saying. He will correct me if I am.

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This is where I break ranks with EBTX. This one will slip through his hands also. Reality is not a bag of rocks. He cannot hit me over the head with that club ... other than by conceptual means. The days of me Tarzan and you Jane are over.

That's ... nice. But the question "what does 'matter is logic' mean?" remains unanswered.

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[Skarp] "He doesn't need to spell it out for you ... Does he?"

Yes. Assuming that your goal in posting here is to communicate.

HINT - Unless you and EBTX and North and (maybe a few others?) start posting in english, we will continue to not communicate.

LB