Einstein's Starting Point

Larry,

I am taking your criticism to heart and have decided to do a total analysis of the META MODEL. I would like to answer the following questions:

1. CG impacts on MI, do they degenerate over time?
2. If so, does CG degeneration indicate a slowing of the light field as subject to dependence upon CG impacts?
3. Does CG flux appear chaotic at local levels, but organize around centers on large scales?
4. Does micro symmetries indicate large scale symmetries?
5. If energy cannot be destroyed, then how does a Meta Model show stability between the forces; or, does the universe dissapate into oblivion and all energy becomes static (popcorn model, or graviton ping pong model with zero organization of flux flows).
6. If I am out of line for asking questions, please tell me. I would appreciate your feedback. Hopefully we can find a common ground to stand upon and all of us can benefit from learning more about how our universe functions.

Thanks, John

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by cosmicsurfer</i>
<br />CG impacts on MI, do they degenerate over time?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">No, not any more than air molecule impacts do.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">If so, does CG degeneration indicate a slowing of the light field as subject to dependence upon CG impacts?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">No, unless your vague question refers to elysium getting denser near masses because of CG impacts (i.e., gravity).

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Does CG flux appear chaotic at local levels, but organize around centers on large scales?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Again, I'm not sure what you are driving at. The universe is infinite in all five dimensions, including scale. In the big picture, there is nothing special about our scale.

However, if you simply mean "Is the CG medium finite?", then yes, it is. In that sense, it is a feature of the local universe, where "local" means many times the size of the visible universe. There are no doubt other CG fields elsewhere in the infinite universe.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Does micro symmetries indicate large scale symmetries?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">No, but symmetries can exist or fail to exist on any scale. Again, there is nothing special about our scale.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">If energy cannot be destroyed, then how does a Meta Model show stability between the forces; or, does the universe dissapate into oblivion and all energy becomes static (popcorn model, or graviton ping pong model with zero organization of flux flows).<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">What does "instability between the forces" mean? The universe does not "dissipate into oblivion", and is essentially the same at all times, in all places, on all scales. Differences exist only in the details. -|Tom|-

[cosmicsurfer] "If I am out of line for asking questions, ... "

It is not the asking of questions that caused us to challenge you. We could not understand (some of) what you were saying because you used standard words in non-standard ways without saying what you meant. If your actual goal is to communicate your ideas to another person, this is about as far from the best approach as you can get.

But not everyone who comes here is really interested in comunicating. Over the years we have had a small but steady stream of on-line personalities that seem to think BS is OK. We generally try to not stiffle the expression of new ideas here (even when we are pretty sure the poster is not sincere). Sometimes a friend of the poster will chime in to say how smart the poster's idea is. We chuckle. And mostly ignore them in the beginning. You may have noticed that some of the threads you started get almost no attention ... Sometimes the poster's friend will begin a dialog, probably hopeing that someone else who knows a little science will join in. This has worked a few times (usually to point out an error), but mostly not.

At some point we get our fill. We ask for clarification of some specific things. Often this takes the form of asking for definitions of certain words and or concepts. And usually we get more obfuscation. This goes back and forth a couple of times, and has ended with the poster (and some of his friends) being shown the door.

This process has also "ended" with the poster shifting into lurk mode (with an occasional exception), hopefully to begin the long, hard, but very rewarding process of learning about science.

Other endings have occurred. Still others are possible.

Good luck to you,
Merry Christmas,
Happy Holidays,

LB

Hi Larry and Tom:

I hope you both also had a great holiday and wonderful Christmas. I am not too concerned about being a maverick regarding posts that may not get any response. That is not my intent in the first place since I am sincere and a purest in the sense that I pursue knowledge, a complete picture regardless of lack of interest in responding to my posts. Actually, you might note that I think my posts are read probably more then most here at this site.

I am not in any way discouraged by your lack of acceptance of my ideas. In any true dialogue we must be able to find common terms for descriptions so that we can understand each other. Thus, it is important that I refine my concepts (with acceptable terminology) and also learn the Meta Model.

The Meta Model utilizes new terms and definitions that may not be known in existing scientific theory and the terminology is very different then standard models. I am not confussed on speed of gravitons faster then light, and FTL electrostatic repulsive forces; I am confussed on certain source issues.

Graviton source. Graviton absorption/emmission. Why do Gravitons push or collide with Matter? Are there large scale circulations of Gravitons? Why are Galaxies spiraling inwards and where does the energy go to at center of circulations?

Regarding a bigger picture and our future on this planet. There is no doubt that you Tom have made a huge contribution that has redifined the speed of the graviton, and also we now know that light speed is not fixed because of electrostatic forces causing variabillity in the speed of light. I hope to make an impact in media productions that will cause people to think in new ways about our world.

So, schedule permitting I will study the material and hope to get a complete picture of the Meta Model so that I can understand your concepts more clearly. Here is to a great adventure in learning as much as possible about our universe.

John

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by cosmicsurfer</i>
<br />I think my posts are read probably more then most here at this site.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">I think you are fooling yourself. When a message is overly long and starts out incomprehensible, few have the patience to continue reading.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I am not in any way discouraged by your lack of acceptance of my ideas.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Again, I'd say you are fooling yourself. I for one don't understand many of your ideas. Failure to communicate is very different from failure to persuade.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">In any true dialogue we must be able to find common terms for descriptions so that we can understand each other. Thus, it is important that I refine my concepts (with acceptable terminology) and also learn the Meta Model.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Well said.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">The Meta Model utilizes new terms and definitions that may not be known in existing scientific theory and the terminology is very different then standard models.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">MM introduces new terminology only for new concepts, such as elysium. The term "aether" is usually associated with some sort of absolute space, and elysium is rather the opposite of that, with every local gravitational potential field setting a new standard for rest.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Graviton source.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">By analogy, the same as air molecule source. You need to understand that, in an infinite universe that also has an infinite range of scale, the graviton medium is just another medium, nothing special, And it is certainly <i>not</i> universe-filling. It is limited to some orders of magnitude larger than the visible universe, which is pretty negligible in the larger scheme of things. Mediums come and go on all scales, but the mean time scale for significant change also varies with scale. So the graviton medium will last only perhaps a few quadrillion years, give or take a few orders of magnitude. But that is also negligible in an eternal universe.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Graviton absorption/emmission. Why do Gravitons push or collide with Matter?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Gravitons impact "matter ingredients", which are very small constituents of matter (too small to yet be discovered). All collisions between substances result in a push because of the transfer of momentum between colliding bodies.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Are there large scale circulations of Gravitons?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">No doubt, there are. But we have yet to detect and recognize any phenomenon that might represent a "graviton wind".

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Why are Galaxies spiraling inwards and where does the energy go to at center of circulations?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Spiral galaxies are very unlikely to be spiraling inward. In MM, they are spiraling outward. In standard theory, they are in a steady state, with shape maintained by "density waves".

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Here is to a great adventure in learning as much as possible about our universe.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">That is a goal almost all of us can relate to. -|Tom|-

Hi Tom,

Excellent descriptions of mediums and scales that helped me to see your perceptions more clearly. So, if galactic mass trails away from center in bands, then is there a broad creational zone near the highest concentration of mass at center of galaxy where sun's are being created so as to grow the arms (medium acts as formative soup for creational processes when medium is at critical densities)? Also, if it takes 220 million years for our solar system to travel around galactic core in the orion arm of galaxy is this time period degenerating to longer and longer periods of time as we continue to traverse outwards in the galactic bands?

Do mediums increase in density and motion around galactic centers and are they in faster motion around galactic core (Maybe faster then rotation of mass but slower motion at center because of highest concentration of MI impacts causing compression) following the direction of rotation?

If mediums come and go, any clue as to what might cause the temporal existance of our graviton wind? Are there infinite scales of mediums that come and go in a finite time scale?

John