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18 years 6 months ago #10728
by rderosa
Replied by rderosa on topic Reply from Richard DeRosa
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by starjim</i>
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You know what I find interesting? Mainstream science thinks we're all a bunch of morons and there are NO artifacts on Mars...period.
And we're not debating that, we're debating the nature of the artifact!!
Come on! That's funny!
rd
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We need to agree to agree somewhere.... <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
You know what I find interesting? Mainstream science thinks we're all a bunch of morons and there are NO artifacts on Mars...period.
And we're not debating that, we're debating the nature of the artifact!!
Come on! That's funny!
rd
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18 years 6 months ago #15942
by Gregg
Replied by Gregg on topic Reply from Gregg Wilson
As a process engineer who goes to equipment system startups, I report back what actually occurs. If it is not good news, then the home office concludes that my report must be fallacious. You believe what you want to believe. Never mind the facts.
What is the scale of the Nefertiti artwork? It doesn't look humanoid to me: it looks human.
Gregg Wilson
What is the scale of the Nefertiti artwork? It doesn't look humanoid to me: it looks human.
Gregg Wilson
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18 years 6 months ago #10730
by rderosa
Replied by rderosa on topic Reply from Richard DeRosa
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Gregg</i>
<br />What is the scale of the Nefertiti artwork? It doesn't look humanoid to me: it looks human.
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The image swaths are a little less than 3 kilometers (1.86 miles) wide, and the Family Scene easily fills the width of the swath. The vertical distance of the Scene is at least twice that, without including the Gorilla.
So, as a rough approximation, I'd say the Scene is about 2 miles by 4 miles. The Profile Girl (Nefertiti) by herself is roughly about 1 square mile in size, including headpiece.
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<br />What is the scale of the Nefertiti artwork? It doesn't look humanoid to me: it looks human.
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The image swaths are a little less than 3 kilometers (1.86 miles) wide, and the Family Scene easily fills the width of the swath. The vertical distance of the Scene is at least twice that, without including the Gorilla.
So, as a rough approximation, I'd say the Scene is about 2 miles by 4 miles. The Profile Girl (Nefertiti) by herself is roughly about 1 square mile in size, including headpiece.
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18 years 6 months ago #15943
by Gregg
Replied by Gregg on topic Reply from Gregg Wilson
So, as a rough approximation, I'd say the Scene is about 2 miles by 4 miles. The Profile Girl (Nefertiti) by herself is roughly about 1 square mile in size, including headpiece.
rd
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Do you think that the artwork is entirely structural or does it appear to be using colors intentionally (as in "paint", "powder", "mosaic", whatever).
This matter leads to potentially significant conclusions.
Gregg Wilson
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Do you think that the artwork is entirely structural or does it appear to be using colors intentionally (as in "paint", "powder", "mosaic", whatever).
This matter leads to potentially significant conclusions.
Gregg Wilson
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18 years 6 months ago #10731
by rderosa
Replied by rderosa on topic Reply from Richard DeRosa
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Gregg</i>
<br />Do you think that the artwork is entirely structural or does it appear to be using colors intentionally (as in "paint", "powder", "mosaic", whatever).
This matter leads to potentially significant conclusions.
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Nobody knows, at least as far as I know, anyway. JP Levasseur concluded that the area was fairly flat. Using thousands of data points from related Mars Orbiter Laser Altimeter (MOLA) data, taken from 92 orbits, they showed that the entire area of the Profile Image had variations in altitude on the order of 1 meter. So, he pretty much proved it's not the product of shadows.
As of now, though, I've never seen anything that would lead me to believe anyone knows anything about color, paint, powder, laser blasting, or whatever, as the means by which they were created.
I would be interested in hearing your thinking on the subject.
rd
<br />Do you think that the artwork is entirely structural or does it appear to be using colors intentionally (as in "paint", "powder", "mosaic", whatever).
This matter leads to potentially significant conclusions.
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Nobody knows, at least as far as I know, anyway. JP Levasseur concluded that the area was fairly flat. Using thousands of data points from related Mars Orbiter Laser Altimeter (MOLA) data, taken from 92 orbits, they showed that the entire area of the Profile Image had variations in altitude on the order of 1 meter. So, he pretty much proved it's not the product of shadows.
As of now, though, I've never seen anything that would lead me to believe anyone knows anything about color, paint, powder, laser blasting, or whatever, as the means by which they were created.
I would be interested in hearing your thinking on the subject.
rd
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18 years 6 months ago #10732
by Gregg
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I would be interested in hearing your thinking on the subject.
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Well, I am not artist by a long shot, but:
1) If color were being used, it would indicate that the planet did not have weather, i.e. any atmosphere to speak of when it was made. Otherwise it would have been erased within a few years.
2) With no atmosphere, the artist would have to have considerable high technology, as well as his (her) artistic ability.
3) The imagery does not have a utilitarian function. That is, it doesn't produce useful energy or useful matter. Therefore, the artist had considerable assets in energy, material and time. The artist is not in a survival mode. Above all, he had plenty of "spare" time.
4) Several of these images seem very human. So it is a reasonable possibility that the work was done by humans. I know that the "mainstream thought" is that the artists would come from the mother planet of Mars and would be a species distinct from humans. However, we have a human history which is truncated at about 4,000 BC, with all previous records being labelled as "fairy tales". We really don't know our distant past.
Your work (both Derosa brothers) has brought the images from the cartoon level to a very good art level. The subject does not seem silly.
Gregg Wilson
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Well, I am not artist by a long shot, but:
1) If color were being used, it would indicate that the planet did not have weather, i.e. any atmosphere to speak of when it was made. Otherwise it would have been erased within a few years.
2) With no atmosphere, the artist would have to have considerable high technology, as well as his (her) artistic ability.
3) The imagery does not have a utilitarian function. That is, it doesn't produce useful energy or useful matter. Therefore, the artist had considerable assets in energy, material and time. The artist is not in a survival mode. Above all, he had plenty of "spare" time.
4) Several of these images seem very human. So it is a reasonable possibility that the work was done by humans. I know that the "mainstream thought" is that the artists would come from the mother planet of Mars and would be a species distinct from humans. However, we have a human history which is truncated at about 4,000 BC, with all previous records being labelled as "fairy tales". We really don't know our distant past.
Your work (both Derosa brothers) has brought the images from the cartoon level to a very good art level. The subject does not seem silly.
Gregg Wilson
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