The Big Bang never happened

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">(JMB( If I understand you, I am only interested by the INSIDE.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

If I understand you, you really meant to say "I am only interested by the OUTSIDE."

I am interested in the interface. IF we can't see INSIDE, and I guess that is what I am saying above all, maybe we can see the effects at the interface.

Wikipedia has a few related pages on cosmology. But they are run by the big bang gang. I have tried to work wity the plasma cosmology page (see discussion pages) but they insult me, ridicule me, and ignore if not delete my submitted evidence.

So while we here may think that the big bang is ludicrous, wikipedia states that the big bang is the only game in town.

Here is my latest entry on their talk page which they blanked out.

==<b>Evidence that Plasma cosmology is not a fringe viewpoint</b>==

- I did not include the entire article. Notice the reference to Plasma redshift.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">+ I have blanked this section. This is ordinairily a ''Bad Move'' in Wikipedia. I think it is clearly justified in this case because:
+ # There is no relevance to the editing of the article. The article does no currently describe plasma cosmology as a "fringe viewpoint", and there is no suggestion of how the article can be improved.
+ # The contributions are inappropriately long. In particular, citations are included where links would suffice. This makes it hard for the rest of us to carry on a focussed and efficient discussion.
+ # The contributor (Tommy Mandel) has a history of plastering the Talk Page with irrelevant, illogical and interminable comments. (See above, here and here.)
+ --Art Carlson 08:43, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
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+ Even if we wanted to decide if "Plasma cosmology is not a fringe viewpoint", my crude calculation summarizes it better. Or if we wanted to prove plasma cosmology, that ignores Wikipedia:Verifiability. Art LaPella 17:38, 2 May 2006 (UTC) <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0406437

- Plasma Redshift, Time Dilation, and Supernovas Ia
- Authors: Ari Brynjolfsson
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- The measurements of the absolute magnitudes and redshifts of supernovas Ia show that conventional physics, which includes plasma redshift, fully explains the observed magnitude-redshift relation of the supernovas. The only parameter that is required is the Hubble constant, which in principle can be measured independently. The contemporary theory of the expansion of the universe (Big Bang) requires in addition to the Hubble constant several adjustable parameters, such as an initial explosion, the dark matter parameter, and a time adjustable dark energy parameter for explaining the supernova Ia data. The contemporary Big Bang theory also requires time dilation of distant events as an inherent premise. The contention is usually that the light curves of distant supernovas show or even prove the time dilation. In the present article, we challenge this assertion. We document and show that the previously reported data in fact indicate that there is no time dilation. The data reported by Riess et al. in the Astrophysical Journal in June 2004 confirm the plasma redshift, the absence of time dilation, dark matter, and dark energy.
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">- :Long ago, I measured the ratio of standard cosmology to plasma cosmology at 46 to 1. Art LaPella 05:20, 1 May 2006 (UTC) <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">- :: Ratio of what? Long ago, the ratio of Ptolemy geocentrics to Copernicus heliocentrics was millions and millions to 1...Science is not a popularity contest Art. All it takes is one exception to wipe out an entire theory. All we need is one instance of redshift not caused by Doppler effects and the entire big bang theory is replaced by plasma cosmology as the only game in town. Tommy Mandel 12:31, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
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- :If your best shot is a three-year-old, unrefereed essay by an author without any academic affiliation, then that meets my definition of a "fringe viewpoint" (irrespective of the merits or silliness of his hypotheses). --Art Carlson 19:30, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
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- Just warming up Art, don't want to overburden you, I have a dozen papers that pertain to plasma and redshift. And why would you, a big bang supporter even care?
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- arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0408348
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- Evidence for Intrinsic Redshifts in Normal Spiral Galaxies
- Authors: David G. Russell
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- Journal-ref: Astrophys.Space Sci. 298 (2005) 577-602
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- The Tully-Fisher Relationship (TFR) is utilized to identify anomalous redshifts in normal spiral galaxies. Three redshift anomalies are identified in this analysis: (1) Several clusters of galaxies are examined in which late type spirals have significant excess redshifts relative to early type spirals in the same clusters, (2) Galaxies of morphology similar to ScI galaxies are found to have a systematic excess redshift relative to the redshifts expected if the Hubble Constant is 72 km s-1 Mpc-1, (3) individual galaxies, pairs, and groups are identified which strongly deviate from the predictions of a smooth Hubble flow. These redshift deviations are significantly larger than can be explained by peculiar motions and TFR errors. It is concluded that the redshift anomalies identified in this analysis are consistent with previous claims for large non-cosmological (intrinsic) redshifts.
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- ucsdnews.ucsd.edu/newsrel/science/mcquasar.asp
- January 10, 2005
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- Discovery By UCSD Astronomers Poses A Cosmic Puzzle:
- Can A 'Distant' Quasar Lie Within A Nearby Galaxy?
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- By Kim McDonald
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- An international team of astronomers has discovered within the heart of a nearby spiral galaxy a quasar whose light spectrum indicates that it is billions of light years away. The finding poses a cosmic puzzle: How could a galaxy 300 million light years away contain a stellar object several billion light years away?
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- laserstars.org/summary.html
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- Confirmation : Proper Motion
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- A spectacular confirmation of a laser star theory prediction occurred in 1982 with the discovery of significant quasar proper motion, but first some historical background. The cosmological quasar model rests solely on the assumption that quasars are enormously distant, billions of lightyears beyond our galaxy. A crucial experiment is a test or observation which can rule out a hypothesis or a model. The following crucial experiment is based on careful observations published by the respected astronomer W. J. Luyten (1969), he used the well-known Palomar observatory 48-inch Schmidt telescope. His measurements clearly demonstrates significant proper motion for 40 quasars. Luyten is considered an impartial source because he was unaware that these stars were quasars.
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- ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/DP5/explode.htm
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- The redshift-equals-velocity assumption has led big bangers to conclude that galaxies in groups and clusters are moving much faster than they really are, and since the galaxies' visible mass cannot account for these rapid motions, this has given rise to the current obsession with "dark matter." Some 90% of the matter in the universe supposedly consists of this hypothetical, never-detected stuff. Arp, however, shows that in every group of galaxies investigated, companion galaxies always have systematically higher redshifts than the central galaxy they are orbiting. The only reasonable explanation for this is that companion galaxies have intrinsic, excess redshifts arising from their younger age; they are born from the central galaxy and expelled into its near neighborhood. In galaxy clusters, too, smaller, younger galaxies have been found to have excess redshifts. Redshift quantization indicates that the orbital velocities of galaxies must be less than 20 km/s, otherwise the periodicity would be washed out. Once this is accepted, the need for immense quantities of dark matter vanishes.
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- arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0401529
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- Propagation of electromagnetic waves in space plasma
- Authors: Jerry Jensen, Jacques Moret-Bailly
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- Coherent Raman Effect on Incoherent Light (CREIL), shifts the frequencies of normally incoherent light without any blurring of the images or altering the order of the spectra. CREIL operates in gases having quadrupolar resonances in the megaherz range, and it is easily confused with Doppler effects.
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- Quantized Redshifts of Galaxies: Stimulated Raman Scattering in Cold Intergalactic Rydberg Matter
- Author: Holmlid L.1
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- Source: Astrophysics and Space Science, 2004, vol. 291, no. 2, pp. 98-110(13)
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- Publisher: Kluwer Academic Publishers
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- That the redshifts for galaxies in the local supercluster are quantizedwas recently confirmed by Guthrie and Napier(A&A310 (1996) 353). These redshifts are here proposed to be due to stimulated Stokes Raman processes in intergalactic matter in the form of Rydberg Matter (RM). Rydberg Matter is an electronically excited material, as demonstrated by its use as laser medium in a thermally excited ultra-broadband tunable IR laser (Chem. Phys. Lett. 376 (2003) 812). Its existence in interstellar and intergalactic space is demonstrated by several observational results, notably the unidentified IR bands, that agree well with the emission from Rydberg Matter. A stimulated Raman process will allow the H I 21 cm radiation to proceed without deflection, in agreement with observation. Such redshifts will be additive during the passage through space. The process in Rydberg Matter here proposed to give rise to the Stokes Raman process is excitation of electronic translational modes in the planar clusters forming the matter. The specific cluster sizes found in laboratory experiments give rise to a few differently sized redshift quanta, which is in good agreement with the observed quanta. An excitation level (principal quantum number) of Rydberg Matter in intergalactic space between 175 and 200 gives the correct size of the redshift quanta.
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- Astrophysics, abstract
- astro-ph/0404207
- From: Jerry W. Jensen
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- Supernovae Light Curves: An Argument for a New Distance Modulus
- Authors: Jerry W. Jensen
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- To be presented at the APS April Conference, May 4, 2004 Alternative Redshift Session, Denver CO
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- Supernovae Ia (SNe Ia) light curves have been used to prove the universe is expanding. As standard candles, SNe Ia appear to indicate the rate of expansion has increased in the past and is now decreasing. This independent evaluation of SNe Ia light curves demonstrates a Malmquist Type II bias exists in the body of supernova data. If this bias is properly addressed, there is very little budget for time dilation in the light curves of supernova. A non-relativistic distance modulus is proposed, which is based on the predictable attenuation of light by an intergalactic CREIL (Coherent Raman Effects on Incoherent Light) radiation transfer functions.
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- arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0410421
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- The great disk of Milky-Way satellites and cosmological sub-structures
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- Authors: Pavel Kroupa (University of Bonn), Christian Theis (University of Vienna), Christian M. Boily (University of Strasbourg)
- Comments: accepted by A&A, 5 pages
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- We show that the shape of the observed distribution of Milky Way (MW) satellites is inconsistent with being drawn from a cosmological sub-structure population with a confidence of 99.5 per cent. Most of the MW satellites therefore cannot be related to dark-matter dominated satellites.
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- www.cosmology.info/2005conference/wps/gallo_1.pdf
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- Rotational Dynamics of Spiral Galaxies:
- Dark Matter vs ElectroMagnetic Plasma Effects.
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- Philosophy: “Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Proof”.
- The rotational dynamics of our Solar System fits gravitational theory very well. No additional matter or forces are significant.
- However, the measured rotational dynamics of Spiral Galaxies do NOT fit gravitational theory alone. Two different solutions have been presented to explain this gross distortion from gravitational dynamics: (1) Dark Matter , and (2) ElectroMagnetic Plasma Effects. .
- ElectroMagnetic Plasma Effects.
- When Plasma Physicists add known ElectroMagnetic Plasma effects into the Gravitational dynamics of Spiral Galaxies, they obtain the observed rotational dynamics of Spiral Galaxies.
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- History of 2.7 K Temperature Prior to Penzias and Wilson(1)
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- André Koch Torres Assis* & Marcos Cesar Danhoni Neves**
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- Instituto de Física "Gleb Wataghin", Universidade Estadual de Campinas, 13083-970, Campinas-SP, Brasil, e-mail: assis@ifi.unicamp.br
- ** Departamento de Física, Universidade Estadual de Maringá, Av. Colombo, 5790, 87020-900, Maringá-PR, Brasil, e-mail: macedane@yahoo.com
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- We present the history of estimates of the temperature of intergalactic space. We begin with the works of Guillaume and Eddington on the temperature of interstellar space due to starlight belonging to our Milky Way galaxy. Then we discuss works relating to cosmic radiation, concentrating on Regener and Nernst. We also discuss Finlay-Freundlich’s and Max Born’s important research on this topic. Finally, we present the work of Gamow and collaborators. We show that the models based on an Universe in dynamical equilibrium without expansion predicted the 2.7 K temperature prior to and better than models based on the Big Bang.
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- www.arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0403353
- Is the low-l microwave background cosmic?
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- Authors: Dominik J. Schwarz (CERN), Glenn D. Starkman (CERN, Case Western Reserve University), Dragan Huterer (CWRU), Craig J. Copi (CWRU)
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- Journal-ref: Phys.Rev.Lett. 93 (2004) 221301
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- The large-angle (low-l) correlations of the Cosmic Microwave Background exhibit several statistically significant anomalies compared to the standard inflationary big-bang model, however no connection has hitherto been drawn between them. Here we show that the quadrupole and octopole are far more correlated (99.97% C.L.) than previously thought.
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- Formation of voids in the Universe within the Lemaitre-Tolman model
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- Authors: Krzysztof Bolejko, Andrzej Krasinski, Charles Hellaby
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- Journal-ref: Mon.Not.Roy.Astron.Soc. 362 (2005) 213-228
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- We develop models of void formation starting from a small initial fluctuation at recombination and growing to a realistic present day density profile in agreement with observations of voids. The model construction is an extension of previously developed algorithms for finding a Lemaitre-Tolman metric that evolves between two profiles of either density or velocity specified at two times. Of the 4 profiles of concern -- those of density and velocity at recombination and at the present day -- two can be specified and the other two follow from the derived model. We find that, in order to reproduce the present-day void density profiles, the initial velocity profile is more important than the initial density profile. Extrapolation of current CMB observations to the scales relevant to proto-voids is very uncertain. Even so, we find that it is very difficult to make both the initial density and velocity fluctuation amplitudes small enough, and still obtain a realistic void by today.
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- nowscape.com/big-ban2.htm
- BIG BANG THEORY UNDER FIRE 1 William C. Mitchel
- ( As Published in Physics Essays Volume 10, Number 2, June 1997)
- In one of its several variations the big bang cosmological theory is almost universally accepted as the most reasonable theory for the origin and evolution of the universe. In fact, it is so well accepted that virtually every media article, story or program that touches on the subjects of astronomy or cosmology presents the big bang (BB) as a virtual proven fact. As a result, the great majority of the literate populace of the world, including most of the scientists of the world, accepts big bang theory (BBT) as scientific fact.
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- Education establishments involved in the fields of astronomy, astrophysics, theoretical physics and cosmology are dominated by those who have accepted BB as the theory to be pursued. Scientists who seriously question the BB are generally considered disruptive, ridiculed and derogatorily referred to as big bang bashers.
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- As a result of that attitude alternate cosmological possibilities are left uninvestigated. Untold man-hours and vast sums of money are spent in pursuit of data in support of the prevailing theory. Such endeavors are not in keeping with the ideals of impartial scientific investigation. It is all but forgotten that the BB is not fact, but an unproven theory.
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The agressivity of the "big-bangers" is increasing while the arguments against the BB become stronger and stronger. For instance it is not anymore possible to put papers on Doppler-like redshifts on arxiv ...
This increase of agressivity shows that the BB is besiedged fortress. It will fall.