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Plasma has two complimentary states. One state is that state which we experience by it's effects on ordinary matter. The other state is at the interface of outside/INSIDE. We know that energy moves across this interface, we don't know what it is on the other side. We know it as the electron on this side.
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What is wrong with that? Simplicity is as valid as complexity, add up all the complexity in you and the result is one North. We can think in teerms of simple and complex too. Wrongness comes with over-simplification. I said it right, I don't have to give more detail at this level of explanation. After all, the simpler is more likely to be the true.
Puthoff shows us the grond state of an electron derives it radiative energy from what he called the SPF. It was Planck who first thought of that. Doesn't take much to say it, the electron, all of them, are connected to the INSIDE, and while we can see the outside of that, we don't know what the INSIDE looks like. Do you want me to invent something? Puthoff once said it was determinstic chaos. I think it is more like PURE.
So far my reading indicates that Plasma is ordinary matter, but in the electromagnetic sense. The Northern lights have been explained by Plasma theories. Birkeland even built a model which the pure theoretician Chapman refused to look at. The main researcher was Alfven, and it was his explanation of the Northern lights that led to present day plasma theories. The particles coming from the sun are electrons and protons, nothing unusual about them. So far.
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So when we talk about plasma, are you talking about the electron? Or are you talking about something else, something that the electron derives its energy from? My thinking has it that plasma is a flow of ions, having to do with atomic processes. Some say that anomalous heat can be detected around Plasmas. It is this anomalous heat that is extra energy, sometimes called free energy.
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Actually it was this very question that led me here. There are hundreds, thousands, maybe even tens of thousands of sightings of Balls of light. They have been seen in space by astronauts, in the sky by airplane pilots, and from the ground most often. They have been seen up close at some crop circles in England. So often that the residents pay no attention to them anymore. In one case, A ball of Light was caught by a video camera hovering a newly formed crop circle. A farmer on a tractor approached in the video, the Ball of Light then moves acoss the field and toward the farmer. As the Ball of Light flies over the farmer, the video clearly shows him twisting his head to follow it.
They are thought to be Balls of Plasma. Some of the crop circles show indications of great heat, abrupt crystalization of clays, elongated and burst nodes of the stalks, fusion of iron and silica, even fusion of fly wigns to the plants, molten metal solidified to the plants bilogical structure, indicates brief but great heat. All of this is anomalous or at least inexplicable.
In the case of the crop circles intelligence is involved, for example five new geometrical theorems have been found in the crop circle geometry.
Reading the story of Plasma research is surprising to me. I used to be an electronic technician, I used to test those magnetrons that utilized plasma, twisting the electrons in tuned cavities and magnetic fields. The SPS-8 magnetron's magnet was huge. I pondered many years over how the RF Pulse of energy could travel down the waveguide without getting shorted out. A wavewguide matches the wavelength such that the opposite sides well I am not sure exactly. But it boggles the mind of someone used to wires and insulation.
Plasma research is not new, Birkeland predicted filaments in space and Alfven produced the theory and space flights show that they exist.
Birkeland actually built a small model of a sphere coated with stuff which glowed when elevtrons hit it. The sphere had a magnetic field which forced the electrons and protons toward the poles where the magnetic lines are vertical. Alfven's influence went so far as to resolve problems with nuclear fusion, so we aren't talking crack pot here. Eventually he would go on to develop a cosmology of his own based on Plasma.
Which would be ignored by mainstream cosmology in favor of a theory that has even mre fantastic players such as Dark Energy, "We can't see it, but we know it is there because our theory says so."
Much more interesting, to observe first, then make the theory. Seems that even Alfven was haunted by a theorist, Chapman, claiming that Alfven's work was meaningless.
Plasma is not just current flow like the flow of electrons along a wire conductor. Plasma's differ in that magnetic fields are involved.
in the flow. These magnetic fields restrict the flow of electrons along the lines of magnetic force. Pinching is when these line come together. So what we have as a model of Plasma is an integration of Electric and Magnetic current flows. This integration leads to new behavoirs which can be seen operating at all levels up to the cosmic
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Now, all of this is basic electricity. The electric current flow and restrictive magnetic fields are ordinary in the sense that maxwell's equations are not falsified.
So, when I said
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I was talking about what drives the electrons in plasma flow. All I know for sure is that there is an INSDIE and that there is energy flow across the place where they meet. This may sound too simplistic but it covers one of our greatest mysteries today in the simplest way. I don't know how the energy moves across the interface, but I do know it does.
I wonder if it might not be more fruitful to ask how does an electron do what it is doing, and just what is it doing, then it is to ask how all of them happened. If we can figure out how one electron works, maybe we won't have to figure out how all of them work.
An electron involves both electric and magnetic just like plasma. . It has a negative charge and it had magnetic moment. I am not sure what that means, but I think it means that it has to be moving. So it almost apears like a plasma itself.
Here is my point. Th point that Puthoff replied to. If the electron is moving and creating a magnetic field, it must also be radiating energy. Where does this energy come from?
I think this is where Maxwell comes in. His idea was the displacement currents, tiny currents fed from the Ether.
Some mathematician might do well to investigate these displacement current in light of the modern observation of the INSIDE of space, a.k.a., hyperspace.
I believe that the principle of the electron plasma is also going on at the cosmic level, not only behind the scenes as the source of all matter, but proactively in the sense of matter creation.
Like Thomas Kuhn wrote, "perhaps someday we will know what displacement currents are...
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