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10 years 10 months ago #22076
by pareidoliac
Replied by pareidoliac on topic Reply from fred ressler
Fischer was a giant anti-semite despite being jewish. An obvious nut job. To not like all semites when having met only a tiny percent shows an other than be here now consciousness.
Perelman on the other hand is so in the here and now that he turned down prizes and heads of departments because he knew all the people offering him all this had no idea what he was talking about and just wanted to reward him because other people said they should- like all the other "just following orders" world. He would rather go about doing what we all do. Fill monetary and social voids. We just get sucked into the voids and think WE are doing something. Others are egomaniacs who can come up with nothing better than join or fight the war. Hats off to Perelman for showing what the most competitive math system in the world (like we are about war and football) came up with.
Perelman on the other hand is so in the here and now that he turned down prizes and heads of departments because he knew all the people offering him all this had no idea what he was talking about and just wanted to reward him because other people said they should- like all the other "just following orders" world. He would rather go about doing what we all do. Fill monetary and social voids. We just get sucked into the voids and think WE are doing something. Others are egomaniacs who can come up with nothing better than join or fight the war. Hats off to Perelman for showing what the most competitive math system in the world (like we are about war and football) came up with.
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10 years 10 months ago #21843
by rderosa
Replied by rderosa on topic Reply from Richard DeRosa
Fred, are you familiar with this guy's art? What I find interesting is (a) It could be gone the next day, and (b) He's basically doing this in his head.
Simon Beck:
www.viralnova.com/simon-beck-snow-art/
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Simon Beck:
www.viralnova.com/simon-beck-snow-art/
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10 years 10 months ago #22077
by pareidoliac
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Put Simon Beck on my above list of people obviously in touch on some level with reality as it exists. Nice touch trumping Tibetan sand mandalas that intellectual man destroys. Here nature does the job more gradually and more artistically. Thanks.
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10 years 10 months ago #21588
by rderosa
Replied by rderosa on topic Reply from Richard DeRosa
I just noticed that article ends with the comment:
<i>"If youd like to see more of Simons art (which is genius bordering on insanity), visit..."</i>
Why does genius border on insanity? Seems like an appropriate question.
<i>"If youd like to see more of Simons art (which is genius bordering on insanity), visit..."</i>
Why does genius border on insanity? Seems like an appropriate question.
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10 years 10 months ago #21589
by rderosa
Replied by rderosa on topic Reply from Richard DeRosa
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by pareidoliac</i>
<br />Fischer was a...An obvious nut job.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Yes, I know, but speaking about "patterns" can you imagine anything more tuned into patterns than a person who can remember every move of every game he ever played?
I read two books on Bobby Fischer, and when he was at the peak of his game, it's almost hard to believe what he did.
When he was in his teens and played a Russian Grandmaster and beat him, then some time a year or so later he met the Russian in the lobby of a famous hotel somewhere. They struck up a conversation and Bobby tells him, "you know on Move 35, if you'd have moved your Bishop to XX, instead of your Rook to YY, you'd have won in Z moves after that." (I can't remember what I did five minutes ago. [)])
When he was a little boy, his mentor used to take him to chess clubs, and as they walked the NYC blocks to the club, they would play chess with no boards, just imaginary pieces and boards, remembering where everything is, all through a 30 to 50 move game.
If you've ever tried it, it's one laughably, insanely, hard thing to do.
Or how about playing 10 or more players blindfolded (the record is held by Janos Flesch of Hungary played 52 opponents blindfold simultaneously.)? How can they do that, unless they are "seeing" the whole game all at once in their mind? I can't imagine a greater grasp of pattern recognition than that. All of the most famous "genius" chess masters had one thing in common: they knew where everything was during the game, and after the game, they remember every move. Is it just "good memory?" I don't think so.
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<br />Fischer was a...An obvious nut job.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Yes, I know, but speaking about "patterns" can you imagine anything more tuned into patterns than a person who can remember every move of every game he ever played?
I read two books on Bobby Fischer, and when he was at the peak of his game, it's almost hard to believe what he did.
When he was in his teens and played a Russian Grandmaster and beat him, then some time a year or so later he met the Russian in the lobby of a famous hotel somewhere. They struck up a conversation and Bobby tells him, "you know on Move 35, if you'd have moved your Bishop to XX, instead of your Rook to YY, you'd have won in Z moves after that." (I can't remember what I did five minutes ago. [)])
When he was a little boy, his mentor used to take him to chess clubs, and as they walked the NYC blocks to the club, they would play chess with no boards, just imaginary pieces and boards, remembering where everything is, all through a 30 to 50 move game.
If you've ever tried it, it's one laughably, insanely, hard thing to do.
Or how about playing 10 or more players blindfolded (the record is held by Janos Flesch of Hungary played 52 opponents blindfold simultaneously.)? How can they do that, unless they are "seeing" the whole game all at once in their mind? I can't imagine a greater grasp of pattern recognition than that. All of the most famous "genius" chess masters had one thing in common: they knew where everything was during the game, and after the game, they remember every move. Is it just "good memory?" I don't think so.
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10 years 10 months ago #21559
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Genius may appear insane because society is the herd and never perceives genius any more than they perceive anything but herd mentality. Only fish and humans are in schools. School turns instinct off and un-reality on. Einstein said the thing that most interfered with his learning was his education. We are genius living speaking gnostic/ solipsistic/ universe creating void filling gods economic and social)- like every eddy in the stream called everything. On top of that- we are not individuals but have the universe or what we call our spirit or self or unchanging thing near our physical body. We are put into the "student" category by the Brahmanic totalitarian chain more likely Atlantean- chain thru Plato (Teacher of Aristotle who taught Alexander the great to conquer the world we still live in)Bacon and John Dee. We are made to respect authority and follow orders. We are trained to follow reversed values. Fisher played cool chess but many rank others higher. His memory was fairly exceptional. At any rate the game of go is so much more complex and deep and matching up to reality that i would be much more impressed by the mind of a go master (which requires virtually no memory at the highest level- it makes chess seem like political tic tac toe. Aaron Nimzovich was a much more impressive chess artist. A crazy genius who won many games despite his insane theory of not controlling the center directly. For a while he had many people convinced his theory was right. Bobby was an idiot savant. Ray Charles could see without eyes (Third eye- echolocation- visionary- real). Billie Holiday- more real- sang beyond bell tones that even limited Ray. More Soul and improvised melody lines superior to the composer's. Coltrane=Reality- must have seen live. i saw him live six times- every time a literally transcendental experience. Coltrane the master of Apollonian music flowed into free music to get free of classical forms and played free in the Dionysian mode like Nietzsche's free music. The only real music based in the here and now. Recordings quantumly make music impossible (as does daytime). YouTube removed the best of "Vigil" the closest to a live set. As far as seeing patterns goes i'm with Baudrillard in that if any of us could see the pattern of reality and communicate it to one other person we would start to become real humans. In the meantime we are all extensions of Disney/ Hollywood type simulacra of reality. People see with Disney/ King Arthur Hollywood not real eyes. Baudrillard says that Disneyland is more real than America which pretends to be other than Disneyland while Disneyland is the real thing itself (if i read him correctly). The closest i've seen of reality demonstrated in the outer world was Elvin Jones and John Coltrane. When someone asked Elvin what it was like playing with Coltrane- he replied "You could die with the mother****er." Those were close to real words pointing to reality. Reality is pointed to by 5 of the 6 major jazz critics calling Coltrane Insane when he started playing free (real) music and free music being replaced by the "English Wave" in 1967 to steer us to idiocy (Except for Hendrix). Even Pharoah Sanders quite playing free music. Where has all the "music" gone today? Genius is a lot more than memory which is a distraction. Chimps have better memory than man. Fisher could only play chess it was life to him. Kasparov was genius but not enough to have him realize the futility of politics. Perelman realizes what a backward joke the only game in town is. A chess playing computer has no memory of the past but can see far into the future quickly. Coltrane had no ego or competitiveness. He arranged for 400 musicians to get contracts on his O.K. He said anyone can play and played with anyone including Jimmy Hendrix twice-
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