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18 years 5 months ago #8865
by neilderosa
Replied by neilderosa on topic Reply from Neil DeRosa
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> I will suggest a speculative alternative to the "dying" culture on Mars. Suppose they originally came from Earth. Gregg <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
That would explain the similarities to what we see on Earth. But I think the simplest answer is that they came from where we see them.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I think we just got Neil's definition of an ideal scientist. JR <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
I always admit to JR's considerable abilities as a disputer, hayever, I'm not taking the bait.
This post is about possible artificial structures on Mars. Using the tools I have available to me at present, this is my best estimation (and tentitive explanation) of what I think I see. Whatever face I post, implicitly passes my subjective test as a good candidate for artificiality. That doesn't mean of course that I think I've proven my case.
Neil
That would explain the similarities to what we see on Earth. But I think the simplest answer is that they came from where we see them.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I think we just got Neil's definition of an ideal scientist. JR <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
I always admit to JR's considerable abilities as a disputer, hayever, I'm not taking the bait.
This post is about possible artificial structures on Mars. Using the tools I have available to me at present, this is my best estimation (and tentitive explanation) of what I think I see. Whatever face I post, implicitly passes my subjective test as a good candidate for artificiality. That doesn't mean of course that I think I've proven my case.
Neil
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18 years 5 months ago #8866
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Whatever face I post, implicitly passes my subjective test as a good candidate for artificiality. That doesn't mean of course that I think I've proven my case.
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Referring to possible faces, what these all have in common (beside their location) is that they are all small relative to the major Cydonia Face and the Profile Image and Family. Yet they all retain sufficient detail, proportionality and thematic applicability. Here are some more.
M0300647 "Saint" (note beard, elaborate hat, and facial features, mouth, well defined eye looking up)
M0300647 "Philosopher" (note beard, Greek hair style, and facial features, good shading)
M0300647 "Indian" (may be a woman; note high cropped hair, eye, strong cheek bone, well shaded nose and cheek)
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Referring to possible faces, what these all have in common (beside their location) is that they are all small relative to the major Cydonia Face and the Profile Image and Family. Yet they all retain sufficient detail, proportionality and thematic applicability. Here are some more.
M0300647 "Saint" (note beard, elaborate hat, and facial features, mouth, well defined eye looking up)
M0300647 "Philosopher" (note beard, Greek hair style, and facial features, good shading)
M0300647 "Indian" (may be a woman; note high cropped hair, eye, strong cheek bone, well shaded nose and cheek)
Neil
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18 years 5 months ago #15906
by neilderosa
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Just an update to let anyone interested know--We intend to post a few more probable faces in the next few days. We are also working on Keys for all probable faces posted which will eventually be posted, but this all takes time.
If most of this is real, or at least some of it, then it is prudent to have a coherent record as we proceed.
Neil
If most of this is real, or at least some of it, then it is prudent to have a coherent record as we proceed.
Neil
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18 years 5 months ago #15982
by rderosa
Replied by rderosa on topic Reply from Richard DeRosa
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Gregg</i>
<br />I will suggest a speculative alternative to the "dying" culture on Mars. Suppose they originally came from Earth. They are on Mars because of anticipated destruction on Earth. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Are you saying that you think this happened? When? If so, that would change the argument considerably, don't you think? For one thing, us being on Earth, we wouldn't have to send a manned spaceship to investigate. I would think there would be some kind of evidence for that. Or are you saying that you think there is?
rd
<br />I will suggest a speculative alternative to the "dying" culture on Mars. Suppose they originally came from Earth. They are on Mars because of anticipated destruction on Earth. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Are you saying that you think this happened? When? If so, that would change the argument considerably, don't you think? For one thing, us being on Earth, we wouldn't have to send a manned spaceship to investigate. I would think there would be some kind of evidence for that. Or are you saying that you think there is?
rd
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18 years 5 months ago #8870
by Gregg
Replied by Gregg on topic Reply from Gregg Wilson
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Are you saying that you think this happened? When? If so, that would change the argument considerably, don't you think? For one thing, us being on Earth, we wouldn't have to send a manned spaceship to investigate. I would think there would be some kind of evidence for that. Or are you saying that you think there is?
rd
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Ancient legend state that a planet comes into our solar system once every so many thousand years. Supposedly it comes from the South and enters the Asteroid Belt for a short period. The effect on this passage on Earth would be very different from its effect on Mars. We have a world where 70% of the surface is water. If our planet were in a part of its orbit such that we had crossover with planet X, then there would be a world scale tidal surge on Earth which would last several weeks. This tidal effect would destroy all civilisation on Earth. No one would survive.
On the other hand, survival on Mars would be plausible. Mars would experience asteroid impacts and probably have its orbit changed somewhat. We see tubes on Mars which appear to be normally underground. This fact implies no atmosphere (to speak of). It would also give significant protection or survival escape means in regard to impacts.
All these structures on Mars require a nuclear power technology, which gives the ability to travel from planet to planet. The arrival of such a planet X would be known well in advance. Those who chose to survive or had the ability to survive would take up refuge on Mars.
Coming back to Earth, one would have to rebuild civilization. The first major project would be the pyramids at Giza, Egypt. This project would re-establish the fuel capacity to trave from planet to planet.
I don't presume to know where "humans" orginated. Maybe Planet V, maybe Earth, maybe another solar system. But Mars, being a dessicated moon, would not be a place for the origination of humans.
The abrupt change from Ice Age to temperate climate occurred about 14,000 years ago. Perhaps instigated by the foreign planet and a subsequent Great Flood.
If you are waiting on Mars while Earth has a tidal surge, you would have a long time to do artwork, etc.
Gregg Wilson
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Ancient legend state that a planet comes into our solar system once every so many thousand years. Supposedly it comes from the South and enters the Asteroid Belt for a short period. The effect on this passage on Earth would be very different from its effect on Mars. We have a world where 70% of the surface is water. If our planet were in a part of its orbit such that we had crossover with planet X, then there would be a world scale tidal surge on Earth which would last several weeks. This tidal effect would destroy all civilisation on Earth. No one would survive.
On the other hand, survival on Mars would be plausible. Mars would experience asteroid impacts and probably have its orbit changed somewhat. We see tubes on Mars which appear to be normally underground. This fact implies no atmosphere (to speak of). It would also give significant protection or survival escape means in regard to impacts.
All these structures on Mars require a nuclear power technology, which gives the ability to travel from planet to planet. The arrival of such a planet X would be known well in advance. Those who chose to survive or had the ability to survive would take up refuge on Mars.
Coming back to Earth, one would have to rebuild civilization. The first major project would be the pyramids at Giza, Egypt. This project would re-establish the fuel capacity to trave from planet to planet.
I don't presume to know where "humans" orginated. Maybe Planet V, maybe Earth, maybe another solar system. But Mars, being a dessicated moon, would not be a place for the origination of humans.
The abrupt change from Ice Age to temperate climate occurred about 14,000 years ago. Perhaps instigated by the foreign planet and a subsequent Great Flood.
If you are waiting on Mars while Earth has a tidal surge, you would have a long time to do artwork, etc.
Gregg Wilson
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18 years 5 months ago #8871
by rderosa
Replied by rderosa on topic Reply from Richard DeRosa
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Gregg</i>
<br /> If our planet were in a part of its orbit such that we had crossover with planet X, then there would be a world scale tidal surge on Earth which would last several weeks. This tidal effect would destroy all civilisation on Earth. No one would survive.
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Gregg,
That's an interesting theory. There's just one problem, though. Tidal waves leave alot of evidence. I think there would be ample proof of such an occurance.
rd
<br /> If our planet were in a part of its orbit such that we had crossover with planet X, then there would be a world scale tidal surge on Earth which would last several weeks. This tidal effect would destroy all civilisation on Earth. No one would survive.
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Gregg,
That's an interesting theory. There's just one problem, though. Tidal waves leave alot of evidence. I think there would be ample proof of such an occurance.
rd
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