Nefertiti's Family

T or E thread is done, although there are a couple more spam boxes in the first couple of pages that are in messages that Neil posted. He must have replied to a post of mine and copied the filelodge img code. He'll have to clean those up.

I checked the Pareidolia thread just to make sure, and it's clean.

The period from March 13 through May 31, 2006 was the only time I used filelodge, so I should have them all excised. If you know of anymore, send me an email and I'll fix them.

Now to see if I can get all those images from filelodge, download them to my computer, and fix this thread using photobucket.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by rderosa</i>
<br />I got my suggested image site for the Profile Girl and Family into the HiRISE system. I had to finagle a little to get it done, but it's definitely in the queue with an ID number and all the trimmings. I'll keep monitoring it until it's imaged.rd<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">When I submitted my request back in April, I had to use a "demo" account that the adminitrators told me about. The demo account was supposed to just get me into the Image Suggestion Facility, and once there I was supposed to register under my own name and password. However, my attempts to register kept failing at the time, so I ended up posting my suggestion using the demo logon to get me into the Suggestion Tool. Some time later I discovered that the demo account didn't work anymore, so I pursued getting them to fix why I couldn't register under my own name, which they did.

Since my suggestion under the demo account never got imaged, I thought I would try over again, registering in my own name. This time I was successful in doing that, so that now I have a suggestion in place. It is Suggestion #31116. I put together some images from within the Image Suggestion Facility and Tool, to show the general area, and the location of Suggestion #31116 in reference to images we're already familiar with.

I've always believed that the Nefertiti Profile (Girl) discovered by JP Levasseur, is one of the key images in the Artificial Origins debate, and my hope is that by posting the details of my suggested site, we might get some help from the readers of this forum in getting them to image this site. I think if enough people contact them and request that they image Suggestion #31116 (submitted by Richard DeRosa), maybe we can move the debate forward.

All of the following images were obtained by taking sreen captures (bitmaps) while inside the Image Suggestion Facility and Tool, resized and then converted to jpegs in an attempt to keep the overall size down. For that reason, they won't serve as a starting point for further analysis, but rather just for context.

The first image shows the suggestion in blue, in the familiar MOC Narrow Angle Map, along with some recent nearby HiRise image locations:



The next image shows all the MOC Images in the area, specifically pointing out M03-05549 (highlighted in red)and it's relationship to Suggestion #31116. The centers are within hundreths of a degree in both Longitude and Latitude, and the suggested site overlaps the MOC swath in width, so if imaged close to the way I'm suggesting, should give us a pretty good look at the area.



Following are some other interesting perspectives. First the MOLA Map of the area. Note that this confirms a study that Professor Levasseur did with his students, which showed the area to be relatively flat. I'm not sure what the spacial resolution of the samples are that go into creating these images, but I suspect it's somewhat course such that small irregularities wouldn't show up. But the overall area does appear to be all one color. This is somewhat surprising, in view of other context images.



A lower magnification view of the MOLA Map:



The following two images are in MDIM Surface Mosaic mode. The first one is at maximum resolution the tool produces, and the second one is at 55%. Using a little imagination, there are all kinds of possibilities here. There are two large "profile" looking dark areas. The one on the left has it's "eye" right where the Profile Girl is. Considering what the MOLA shows, the first impression is that this is some kind of charcoal drawing of someone with a headdress of sorts......OR.....a pareidolic image of a charcoal drawing of a..... []. Unfortunately, the HiRISE won't shed any light on this one.

Maximum mag.


55%. Too bad the image is segmented so that we can't see what's off to our right of the scene.


This last one is in ThemisDayIR Mosaic Mode. Not sure what to make of any of this:





rd

Looks like you have this figured out right. If they image it, I hope they do it on a clear day. NASA has taken to naming this region (Syria/Claritas Region) a "dust raising event" area. Good luck. Neil

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by neilderosa</i>
<br />Looks like you have this figured out right. If they image it, I hope they do it on a clear day. NASA has taken to naming this region (Syria/Claritas Region) a "dust raising event" area. Good luck. Neil
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Unfortunately, there are no constraints in the tool for "clearness of day" or even time of day.

I think we have to assume there's a certain amount of obviousness to the request. In other words, if I was to ask someone to take a picture of the Grand Canyon for me while they were there on vacation, I think they would know I want to see it clearly when they come back.

I'm not hiding the reason for the request. In the area where it tells you to justify the reason for high resolution, I tell them the truth, that this is a key artifact, discovered by Professor JP Levasseur, that will add to the resolution of the Artificial Origins Debate as it pertains to Mars.

So, if we can't see anything (assuming they do this), then they didn't satify the Suggestion, and I would make it again. I'm not holding my breath, but on the other hand, if the ship is within range, and they have the availability to image it, I think they may. They've already done two right in the neighborhood.

rd

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by neilderosa</i>
<br />Here's another mosaic that passes my subjective probability threshhold for artificiality; the famous "Scullface," (AB108403), first noted I believe by JP Levasseur and HW Crater. First image is for north orientation. Second is enhanced and colorized for easier viewing.





It ocurred to me that when I posted the "Crownface" and pointed downward to "north" that it might be confusing to some readers. This cropped image is of the Crownface (M0203051) as it appears in the Map Projected image. Notice that the face is upside down in this image, and north is "up," as it is in all Map Projected images on the MSSS website. ("North arrow" is for general direction only.)

A reasonable conclusion is that of the four faces I posted to indicate N/S orientation, the "Crownface" is the only one that is "south oriented" (more or less). That is, relative to the present pole position of Mars, of course.



Neil
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The Crowned Face, Nefertiti, Cydonia, the city

www.ultor.org/lines/1.htm

and M0201733 (the spade):

www.ultor.org/M0201733.htm

Are all on a great circle. The equator is a great circle as are longitudinal lines.

M0201733 has a lot of building like shapes. I call it the spade because there is a large spade shape like off playing cards, see if you can spot it.