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Nefertiti's Family
18 years 7 months ago #10419
by Trinket
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My comment is ..
People are waking up .. slowly but waking up just the same..
What you see can only be seen if you had the right frame of mind to look for it..
Now Imagine a whole planet like that..every centimeter.. when you get there you let me know..
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People are waking up .. slowly but waking up just the same..
What you see can only be seen if you had the right frame of mind to look for it..
Now Imagine a whole planet like that..every centimeter.. when you get there you let me know..
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18 years 7 months ago #15259
by neilderosa
Replied by neilderosa on topic Reply from Neil DeRosa
My reason for not seeing the other faces was that I was not looking for them. The fact that even one was there was too much for me to take in. I was too focused on the girl. That was my reason for not seeing it.
I think we must question this assumption that we see only what we want to see. Meaning all is subjective. If that were true, science would not be able to advance. The images are real. The only question is whether they are forged, and since that seems highly unlikely, we are faced with a staggering paradigm shift when and if this new evidence (along with all the other evidence for artificiality on Mars) is finally accepted.
One could comment on the correct proportions of the faces, even of the gargoyle, the correct shading, the fact that they have chins. (Homo sapiens have chins, primitive humans such as Homo erectus and Neanderthals do not. Since chins are non-adaptive, meaning they have no survival value. And, given proper dating confirmation, this would be good evidence that the humans, the final product at least, were genetically engineered by whoever these people were. This supports Dr. Van Flandern’s theory that we are a transfer species)
One might also wonder why the other faces were fainter than the girl's (possibly worn out? or by design?). What about the theme of the picture as a whole? Is it a good vs. evil theme?
There are lots of questions.
Neil
I think we must question this assumption that we see only what we want to see. Meaning all is subjective. If that were true, science would not be able to advance. The images are real. The only question is whether they are forged, and since that seems highly unlikely, we are faced with a staggering paradigm shift when and if this new evidence (along with all the other evidence for artificiality on Mars) is finally accepted.
One could comment on the correct proportions of the faces, even of the gargoyle, the correct shading, the fact that they have chins. (Homo sapiens have chins, primitive humans such as Homo erectus and Neanderthals do not. Since chins are non-adaptive, meaning they have no survival value. And, given proper dating confirmation, this would be good evidence that the humans, the final product at least, were genetically engineered by whoever these people were. This supports Dr. Van Flandern’s theory that we are a transfer species)
One might also wonder why the other faces were fainter than the girl's (possibly worn out? or by design?). What about the theme of the picture as a whole? Is it a good vs. evil theme?
There are lots of questions.
Neil
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18 years 7 months ago #10423
by rderosa
Replied by rderosa on topic Reply from Richard DeRosa
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Trinket</i>
<br />My comment is ..
What you see can only be seen if you had the right frame of mind to look for it..
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No, that's not quite true. It was only seen WHEN I looked at the rest of strip E0501429. And anyway, if what you said was true, the same thing could be said for the original "observation" of Nefertiti.
You either see it or you don't. Look at the whole strip, or the individual pictures.
rd
<br />My comment is ..
What you see can only be seen if you had the right frame of mind to look for it..
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No, that's not quite true. It was only seen WHEN I looked at the rest of strip E0501429. And anyway, if what you said was true, the same thing could be said for the original "observation" of Nefertiti.
You either see it or you don't. Look at the whole strip, or the individual pictures.
rd
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18 years 7 months ago #15260
by Trinket
Replied by Trinket on topic Reply from Bob
I don't rightly understand the insult..
This is a forum for relaying views and Ideas not insults..
so maybe you made a wrong turn and arrived here by accident..
In regards to Neil
"One might also wonder why the other faces were fainter than the girl's "
@ this time it is my opinion that tampering is the number one reason.. and it is the fainter faces that have been tampered with most..
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This is a forum for relaying views and Ideas not insults..
so maybe you made a wrong turn and arrived here by accident..
In regards to Neil
"One might also wonder why the other faces were fainter than the girl's "
@ this time it is my opinion that tampering is the number one reason.. and it is the fainter faces that have been tampered with most..
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18 years 7 months ago #10424
by rderosa
Replied by rderosa on topic Reply from Richard DeRosa
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by neilderosa</i>
<br />One could comment on the correct proportions of the faces, .... the correct shading<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Another thing that struck me is that the three faces are very closely linked together. If you start with the Man, who to me seems to be the dominant feature in the whole image, you find that his chin is just about touching the Woman's side of her face, between her nose and actual right eye. And Nefertiti is nestled in right to the right of the top of the Man's head. Now, it's not clear to me if the Man is wearing something on his head or not, but he might be. In any event, the girl Nefertiti is in the perfect position to the right of the Man and above the Woman.
If I was going to sketch three faces together like that, I think I might try to get them as close together as I could, tight knit like that, sort of looking in various directions. Maybe.
All of these things have to be taken into consideration when trying to decide artificiality or not.
I mean really?!? Either I have one hell of an imagination, or it's there.
rd
<br />One could comment on the correct proportions of the faces, .... the correct shading<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Another thing that struck me is that the three faces are very closely linked together. If you start with the Man, who to me seems to be the dominant feature in the whole image, you find that his chin is just about touching the Woman's side of her face, between her nose and actual right eye. And Nefertiti is nestled in right to the right of the top of the Man's head. Now, it's not clear to me if the Man is wearing something on his head or not, but he might be. In any event, the girl Nefertiti is in the perfect position to the right of the Man and above the Woman.
If I was going to sketch three faces together like that, I think I might try to get them as close together as I could, tight knit like that, sort of looking in various directions. Maybe.
All of these things have to be taken into consideration when trying to decide artificiality or not.
I mean really?!? Either I have one hell of an imagination, or it's there.
rd
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18 years 7 months ago #17256
by neilderosa
Replied by neilderosa on topic Reply from Neil DeRosa
I’m stuck on the thematic aspect, and I admit that this is speculative. I’ve noticed that in several of the possible artificial structures I’ve studied, especially (but not exclusively) the pictorial ones, there seems to be a tendency of the artist or builder to conform the artwork to the existing landform. This is true of the “King or Queenface”, (M0203051) who’s crown is a continuation of an existing landform. It’s true of the “T” (SP243004), which seems to be part an erosion feature and part cut-out artificially, as in a mining operation. It seems to be the case with the Cydonia Face, (several current images now at MSSS website), which is constructed on a flat top butte or mesa similar to others in that area. The fact that it had the proportions of a possible “face” may have given the builders or artists an incentive to use it, sort of an economy of use.
Now in the case of the Profile Image, which turns out to be a montage of images, the artist(s) here also seem to make like use of the lay of the land. Here’s my take on its theme:
It’s seen best in E0501429, because the original, M0305549, centers too much on the Girl, and also shows her in sharper detail (which may be why no one, including me, noticed the other faces). In E0501429, the Man grabs the center of our attention. If you notice in that strip, the bright area sort of “ripples” down in a bright curve to the left and downward which culminates in his bald or capped head. This is the brightest section of the picture. The beautiful Girl seems to be the object of his attention, although he is looking not exactly at her, but slightly past her. She is in the light, but not as bright a light as he's in. The Woman below, (the mother? or what the Girl will become?), is in an area which is darker still. She is slightly distorted, homelier, if you will, but still with distinct features, shading, and outlining, and her hairstyle resembles the Girl’s.
The Gargoyle below is in the darkest region, and is the only face looking downward, and is definitely sinister looking. I’ll leave my guesses off regarding him/her for now. But clearly this is a connected picture or montage.
Neil
Now in the case of the Profile Image, which turns out to be a montage of images, the artist(s) here also seem to make like use of the lay of the land. Here’s my take on its theme:
It’s seen best in E0501429, because the original, M0305549, centers too much on the Girl, and also shows her in sharper detail (which may be why no one, including me, noticed the other faces). In E0501429, the Man grabs the center of our attention. If you notice in that strip, the bright area sort of “ripples” down in a bright curve to the left and downward which culminates in his bald or capped head. This is the brightest section of the picture. The beautiful Girl seems to be the object of his attention, although he is looking not exactly at her, but slightly past her. She is in the light, but not as bright a light as he's in. The Woman below, (the mother? or what the Girl will become?), is in an area which is darker still. She is slightly distorted, homelier, if you will, but still with distinct features, shading, and outlining, and her hairstyle resembles the Girl’s.
The Gargoyle below is in the darkest region, and is the only face looking downward, and is definitely sinister looking. I’ll leave my guesses off regarding him/her for now. But clearly this is a connected picture or montage.
Neil
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