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20 years 9 months ago #9456 by tvanflandern
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Jim</i>
<br />I learned that when light is refracted in glass color results and is always in the same frequencys of red, green, blue and violet. Is this the same effect you are saying happens in redshift?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">"Redshift" and "blueshift" are changes in frequency, not color.

Normal refraction as in glass slows light by repeated absorption of portions of the light wave into atoms, followed by re-emission of that portion of the light wave about 10 ns later. The amount of this absorption delay is different for different colors, so glass splits white light into its component colors because the delays don't match and the amount of bending is different for each color.

Gravitational potential slows light because the elysium is denser, and the amount of slowing is the same for all colors because no absorption/re-emission delays are involved. It is still a refraction process, but not of the kind that can break light into colors because all colors are affected the same.

This is explained in <i>Dark Matter ...</i>, p. 63. -|Tom|-

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20 years 9 months ago #8628 by Jim
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The elysium is not a medium unlike glass then? The light is not refracted in this medium? I suspect the gravity field stretches the photons just as velocity would. What is wrong with that idea?

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20 years 9 months ago #8813 by tvanflandern
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Jim</i>
<br />The elysium is not a medium unlike glass then? The light is not refracted in this medium?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Elysium is the native medium for light, so all light is affected equally. Glass is not a true medium through which light propagates. It is just an obstacle course in the elysium inside the glass. Light must work around those obstacles (glass atoms) to get to its destination. That's the difference.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I suspect the gravity field stretches the photons just as velocity would. What is wrong with that idea?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">What stretches, what is causing it to stretch, and why? Why does this stretching slow the photons down? Why does it bend their paths?

You can't just throw out unconnected ideas. A good model begins from some readily acceptable starting point and, from there, explains everything we know about a phenomenon with enough detail that we can predict future behavior reliably. -|Tom|-

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20 years 9 months ago #9396 by Jim
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Photons stretch in the redshift process-they get longer. Photons are not slowed down by this process.This is not a new model but rather a misconception or not(on my part) of what gravity fields do to photons.

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