A Problem with TimeTravel

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<br />With all due respect Kao I will differ with you. I have spent over 20 years researching the subject of Time and the engineering of it. Time travel as you may call it. I call it warp technology. In my research I find many have made the same mistake I feel you are making. Time travel has no direction with placement or paths of planets and orbits. It has to do with moments and surface of mass. Where one would end up in a jump has nothing to do with the path but only the moment of the mass surface at that moment. Each mement is locked to its placment in Time.
There is not enough room to go into this here but you or others may contact me if anybody wishes to hear more of what I have found. You may wish to read one of my papers to understand where I am coming from.

The only option if man is going to reach the Stars in a lifetime is to master both Space and Time. Warp Technology today!
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I agree!

Maybe Tom is right that time travel as we presently understand it is impossible. That our existance is fixed in time and tied to a string of cause and effects and cannot be changed or altered. But, the key here is that the gravity time equation is fixed to a specific frame of reference and local relativity. What if we could change our base rate frequency by creating a warped field drive capability, and while under the influence of the warped field could separate from the local time zone and were no longer under the controls of the relativity of local gravity. Not only bending light to invisibility, but bending or dilating time around the ship just like what the nucleons of atoms do. So what do you think? Is it possible to Time Travel across the Universe?

As you stated all energy is attempting to get back to the zero point. Unfortunately, main stream science thinks that equipment utilizing so called zero point energy creating over unity is in violation of 2lot and cannot be built because it is a perpetual motion machine. Geee you mean the Universe is not in perpetual motion. Wow now there is a concept. Why is there a zero point in the first place, and if it exists what does a zero point in time and space mean? Maybe the zero point is a null zone or void that links two opposing force fields, but because of the opposite spin dynamics the two fields are separated and cannot merge and if they do merge they immediately release there energy dynamics into opposing electromagnetic waves. The pressure gradient large scale flash caused by the zero point pressure is an FTL frequency and I think it certainly is possible to build such a technology that generates a continuous stream of zero point energy fluctuations. If so, you might be standing still but the entire universe is passing right by you at warp speeds as you travel at the speed of gravity.

John

Even appearing on the surface, the time traveler has no way to displace the air at the spot where he materializes, so he will materialize around that air and merge with it. (This is a miniature <blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">version of the problem with materializing below ground.)<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
This is a problem with teleportation too. My favorite solution to this problem (at least for sci-fi purposes) is: teleportation would be an exchange. The air (or rock) occupying your destination would be simultaneously teleported into the space that you used to occupy.

I don't exactly agree that time travel is logically self-contradictory.

We know from quantum mechanics that in order to determine the probability of an event, you look at all the ways the event can happen and add up the amplitudes of each one.

So to get the probability of me going back in time and attending my grandfather's high school graduation, we'd look at all the possible ways that could happen--some of which would involve me killing my grandfather--and add up all the amplitudes. The amplitude of self-contradictory events such as me killing my grandfather might be zero. But that doesn't mean that the amplitude of ALL events involving me being in the past must be zero.

I don't believe in predestination; every second of every day, we choose from among an uncountably infinite range of possible futures. The probability of any particular future occurring is precisely zero. Therefore:

Killing your grandfather before you were born doesn't mean you don't exist. Instead it merely places you in a present which includes at time loop in its past; but that past has no reality to anyone but you. In other words, keep it to yourself if you don't want to be locked up in a padded cell.

Following a new timeline from your new present foreward will not return you to that old future which is now locked in a time loop in your own memory, and which has no tangible existence. You now have a new infinite range of possible futures from which to choose.

If you could jump foreward in time, you would have an infinite number of possible futures to jump to. If you jump foreward and then back again, you would return with knowlege of a future which has zero probability of happening---just as every other future has zero probability. Your knowlege of that possible future is of little if any use to you now. You have simply joined the ranks of all the other crazies who think they have seen THE future.

Many people believe religiously in predestination, God's plan, fate, etc. Those just different names for "I'm not responsible!"

What if you didn't have to speed up at all to travel through time and space that you could fold it. Then there wouldn't be a need to lose time you just enter a stargate and exit on the other side. Pretty simple and keeps the clocks running at the same time.

ryan Henningsgaard

I also think time travel is impossible. The main arguments against time travel are ones which a child could come up with and perhaps it's their simplicity that has caused many proponents of time travel to think they have been answered but they haven't. Putting effect before cause isn't impossible just because of physical constrains but because it contradict the DEFINITIONS of cause and effect. In other words it contradicts logic itself and that is not allowed.