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20 years 11 months ago #7710
by tvanflandern
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We have already discussed all these logical errors <i>ad nauseum</i>. In addition, the theory that the universe is equal parts matter and antimatter has been disproved since this article was written. Radiation from the microwave background would interact with antimatter to produce gamma rays, which are not seen. So there cannot be any major pockets of antimatter anywhere in the visible universe. -|Tom|-
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20 years 11 months ago #7537
by Mac
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Tom,
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><b>We have already discussed all these logical errors ad nauseum. In addition, the theory that the universe is equal parts matter and antimatter has been disproved since this article was written. Radiation from the microwave background would interact with antimatter to produce gamma rays, which are not seen. So there cannot be any major pockets of antimatter anywhere in the visible universe. -|Tom|-</b><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
ANS: I agree. There is also one statment in there that "Nothingness" doesn't exist in physics. But overall the concept I have been argueing is very much in the main stream and I wanted to post references which support that idea. Including Mr Stephen Hawkins.
"Imagination is more important than Knowledge" -- Albert Einstien
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><b>We have already discussed all these logical errors ad nauseum. In addition, the theory that the universe is equal parts matter and antimatter has been disproved since this article was written. Radiation from the microwave background would interact with antimatter to produce gamma rays, which are not seen. So there cannot be any major pockets of antimatter anywhere in the visible universe. -|Tom|-</b><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
ANS: I agree. There is also one statment in there that "Nothingness" doesn't exist in physics. But overall the concept I have been argueing is very much in the main stream and I wanted to post references which support that idea. Including Mr Stephen Hawkins.
"Imagination is more important than Knowledge" -- Albert Einstien
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20 years 11 months ago #7649
by north
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what is your overall concept,again.since you agree that "nothing" doesn't exist,how do these references support you?
what is your overall concept,again.since you agree that "nothing" doesn't exist,how do these references support you?
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20 years 11 months ago #7540
by Mac
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north,
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><b>what is your overall concept,again.since you agree that "nothing" doesn't exist,how do these references support you?</b><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
ANS: That is a misunderstanding. I don't agree. I contend that "Nothingness" can be considered the absence of time and space.
What I liked most of these quotes listed is the ones showing the net energy of the universe as being zero. Where energy and matter (+s) are exactly balanced by gravitational energy (-s).
Seems a highly likely possibility to me that our existance is the result of that bifurcation. One that due to the rapidity left particles so formed unable to anihilate. That suggests to me that the observation of virtual particles and their borrowing energy due to uncertainity is the sputter simular to CMB from the initial event but due to the lack of sufficient umph can no longer reach the seperation required to allow perpetual or continued existance.
"Imagination is more important than Knowledge" -- Albert Einstien
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><b>what is your overall concept,again.since you agree that "nothing" doesn't exist,how do these references support you?</b><hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
ANS: That is a misunderstanding. I don't agree. I contend that "Nothingness" can be considered the absence of time and space.
What I liked most of these quotes listed is the ones showing the net energy of the universe as being zero. Where energy and matter (+s) are exactly balanced by gravitational energy (-s).
Seems a highly likely possibility to me that our existance is the result of that bifurcation. One that due to the rapidity left particles so formed unable to anihilate. That suggests to me that the observation of virtual particles and their borrowing energy due to uncertainity is the sputter simular to CMB from the initial event but due to the lack of sufficient umph can no longer reach the seperation required to allow perpetual or continued existance.
"Imagination is more important than Knowledge" -- Albert Einstien
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20 years 11 months ago #7951
by north
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[<hr noshade size="1">ANS: That is a misunderstanding. I don't agree. I contend that "Nothingness" can be considered the absence of time and space.
what is relevance of this contention,since it has no relevance in reality?
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What I liked most of these quotes listed is the ones showing the net energy of the universe as being zero. Where energy and matter (+s) are exactly balanced by gravitational energy (-s).
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why do you like this?
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Seems a highly likely possibility to me that our existance is the result of that bifurcation. One that due to the rapidity left particles so formed unable to anihilate.
_____________________________________________________________________
explain.not very clear.
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That suggests to me that the observation of virtual particles and their borrowing energy due to uncertainity is the sputter simular to CMB from the initial event but due to the lack of sufficient umph can no longer reach the seperation required to allow perpetual or continued existance.
"Imagination is more important than Knowledge" -- Albert Einstien
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what is relevance of this contention,since it has no relevance in reality?
____________________________________________________________________
What I liked most of these quotes listed is the ones showing the net energy of the universe as being zero. Where energy and matter (+s) are exactly balanced by gravitational energy (-s).
______________________________________________________________________
why do you like this?
____________________________________________________________________
Seems a highly likely possibility to me that our existance is the result of that bifurcation. One that due to the rapidity left particles so formed unable to anihilate.
_____________________________________________________________________
explain.not very clear.
______________________________________________________________________
That suggests to me that the observation of virtual particles and their borrowing energy due to uncertainity is the sputter simular to CMB from the initial event but due to the lack of sufficient umph can no longer reach the seperation required to allow perpetual or continued existance.
"Imagination is more important than Knowledge" -- Albert Einstien
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20 years 11 months ago #7543
by north
ANS: That is a misunderstanding. I don't agree. I contend that "Nothingness" can be considered the absence of time and space.
_____________________________________________________________________
What I liked most of these quotes listed is the ones showing the net energy of the universe as being zero. Where energy and matter (+s) are exactly balanced by gravitational energy (-s).
Seems a highly likely possibility to me that our existance is the result of that bifurcation. One that due to the rapidity left particles so formed unable to anihilate. That suggests to me that the observation of virtual particles and their borrowing energy due to uncertainity is the sputter simular to CMB from the initial event but due to the lack of sufficient umph can no longer reach the seperation required to allow perpetual or continued existance.
"Imagination is more important than Knowledge" -- Albert Einstien
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ANS: That is a misunderstanding. I don't agree. I contend that "Nothingness" can be considered the absence of time and space.
_____________________________________________________________________
What I liked most of these quotes listed is the ones showing the net energy of the universe as being zero. Where energy and matter (+s) are exactly balanced by gravitational energy (-s).
Seems a highly likely possibility to me that our existance is the result of that bifurcation. One that due to the rapidity left particles so formed unable to anihilate. That suggests to me that the observation of virtual particles and their borrowing energy due to uncertainity is the sputter simular to CMB from the initial event but due to the lack of sufficient umph can no longer reach the seperation required to allow perpetual or continued existance.
"Imagination is more important than Knowledge" -- Albert Einstien
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