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17 years 10 months ago #19190
by Joe Keller
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This is a small step for man but by the grace of the Gods it is a giant leap for mankind.
The billion-star 2003 United States Naval Observatory B1.0 Catalog suggests that "Planet X" is a double planet with a smaller companion half its radius. The following objects seem to be Planet X and its companion:
Object #1. USNO-B 0827-0286487
Object #2. USNO-B 0824-0279170
Object #3. USNO-B 0820-0274026
Object #4. USNO-B 0813-0233607
A "VizierR" search found that no objects at these positions occur in any other catalogs except NOMAD, wherein essentially the same information is given though slightly less detailed. According to the documentation accompanying the USNO-B catalog, one of the B magnitudes, +24, is probably invalid due to its excessive faintness. Consideration of the other magnitudes shows that there are two bodies accounting for these four observations.
One body had four red magnitudes ranging from 17.41 to 18.57, three blue magnitudes ranging from 18.26 to 19.80, and two infrared magnitudes of 18.36 & 18.78. The aberrantly high blue & small red magnitudes complemented each other energetically consistent with a change in passive reflectance color (weather on the planet).
The other body had four red magnitudes ranging from 20.26 to 20.68, and a blue magnitude of 20.30. At this high galactic latitude most stars with mag > +18 would be red dwarfs. The near equality of red and blue magnitudes for the presumed smaller body, and the near equality (except for the abovementioned aberrant pair of values) of red, blue & infrared magnitudes for the larger body, imply that they are illuminated by the light of our sun.
The pseudo-trajectory was consistent with 27.5 degrees orbital inclination from the ecliptic, too high for most asteroids. Furthermore with only about 10,000 asteroids of this magnitude, asteroidal coincidences on the plates would be far too infrequent. The curvature of the sky path probably is of the correct sign and within a factor of two of what is required.
The billion-star 2003 United States Naval Observatory B1.0 Catalog suggests that "Planet X" is a double planet with a smaller companion half its radius. The following objects seem to be Planet X and its companion:
Object #1. USNO-B 0827-0286487
Object #2. USNO-B 0824-0279170
Object #3. USNO-B 0820-0274026
Object #4. USNO-B 0813-0233607
A "VizierR" search found that no objects at these positions occur in any other catalogs except NOMAD, wherein essentially the same information is given though slightly less detailed. According to the documentation accompanying the USNO-B catalog, one of the B magnitudes, +24, is probably invalid due to its excessive faintness. Consideration of the other magnitudes shows that there are two bodies accounting for these four observations.
One body had four red magnitudes ranging from 17.41 to 18.57, three blue magnitudes ranging from 18.26 to 19.80, and two infrared magnitudes of 18.36 & 18.78. The aberrantly high blue & small red magnitudes complemented each other energetically consistent with a change in passive reflectance color (weather on the planet).
The other body had four red magnitudes ranging from 20.26 to 20.68, and a blue magnitude of 20.30. At this high galactic latitude most stars with mag > +18 would be red dwarfs. The near equality of red and blue magnitudes for the presumed smaller body, and the near equality (except for the abovementioned aberrant pair of values) of red, blue & infrared magnitudes for the larger body, imply that they are illuminated by the light of our sun.
The pseudo-trajectory was consistent with 27.5 degrees orbital inclination from the ecliptic, too high for most asteroids. Furthermore with only about 10,000 asteroids of this magnitude, asteroidal coincidences on the plates would be far too infrequent. The curvature of the sky path probably is of the correct sign and within a factor of two of what is required.
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17 years 10 months ago #16384
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Hi Joe, I've been having a read of the robotic telescope. It seems that it takes a couple of days to get one's image back,depending on the seeing. As it's robotic an image can be disappointing if the moon is bright.
Take a look at a the site and see whether it might be an idea to register as a school teacher. That way you can enter all the jobs and make sure that the exposure time is the same for all of them. Then put them all back in a couple of weeks later to check for any movements.
Anyone on this board can then be part of your class. I did put a job up but if you like I can delete it. It was for 11 11' 23" -7 10' 20"
Take a look at a the site and see whether it might be an idea to register as a school teacher. That way you can enter all the jobs and make sure that the exposure time is the same for all of them. Then put them all back in a couple of weeks later to check for any movements.
Anyone on this board can then be part of your class. I did put a job up but if you like I can delete it. It was for 11 11' 23" -7 10' 20"
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Stoat</i>
<br />Hi Joe, I've been having a read of the robotic telescope. It seems that it takes a couple of days to get one's image back,depending on the seeing. As it's robotic an image can be disappointing if the moon is bright.
Take a look at a the site and see whether it might be an idea to register as a school teacher. That way you can enter all the jobs and make sure that the exposure time is the same for all of them. Then put them all back in a couple of weeks later to check for any movements.
Anyone on this board can then be part of your class. I did put a job up but if you like I can delete it. It was for 11 11' 23" -7 10' 20"
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Thanks, Stoat. From the result of my USNO-B catalog search, I have some narrower coordinates. See below.
Attention: anyone else on this board! Please look! I'm busy with these calculations and I don't mind a bit if someone else sees it first!
<br />Hi Joe, I've been having a read of the robotic telescope. It seems that it takes a couple of days to get one's image back,depending on the seeing. As it's robotic an image can be disappointing if the moon is bright.
Take a look at a the site and see whether it might be an idea to register as a school teacher. That way you can enter all the jobs and make sure that the exposure time is the same for all of them. Then put them all back in a couple of weeks later to check for any movements.
Anyone on this board can then be part of your class. I did put a job up but if you like I can delete it. It was for 11 11' 23" -7 10' 20"
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Thanks, Stoat. From the result of my USNO-B catalog search, I have some narrower coordinates. See below.
Attention: anyone else on this board! Please look! I'm busy with these calculations and I don't mind a bit if someone else sees it first!
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The second and third of the four USNO-B candidates above, seem to have accurate epochs, because their great circle angular separation, divided by the difference in epoch (1976.1 vs. 1965.1) implies a period, for retrograde circular orbit, of 4535 yr, in close agreement with the 4430 yr derived above from the outer planet resonances. I used these epochs to extrapolate an accurate location for 2007.25 (i.e., 07:30 UT, April 2, 2007):
RA 11h 06m 0.50s = 166.5021deg
Decl -6deg 28' 20.5" = -6.47236deg
daily correction from April 2, 2007:
RA -0.0468 sec/day
Decl +0.354"/day
The epochs are given to 0.1 yr, implying a possible track of locations, equivalent to up to a 103-day correction (-4.84s RA and 36.6" Decl) either way.
The fourth USNO-B object also seems confidently from its magnitudes, to be Planet X. Using the 3rd & 4th objects (instead of the 2nd & 3rd objects), the slope d(Decl)/d(RA) is 1.35% less steep. Such a true slope would result in a correction of -54.2" Decl.
Based on these USNO-B objects, then, the narrowed search region is a parallelogram with area 2.2 sq arcminute (0.0006 sq deg) and corners:
RA 11h 06m 5.34s
Decl -6deg 28' 57.1"
RA 11h 05m 55.66s
Decl -6deg 27' 43.9"
RA 11h 06m 5.34s
Decl -6deg 29' 51.3"
RA 11h 05m 55.66s
Decl -6deg 28' 38.1"
RA 11h 06m 0.50s = 166.5021deg
Decl -6deg 28' 20.5" = -6.47236deg
daily correction from April 2, 2007:
RA -0.0468 sec/day
Decl +0.354"/day
The epochs are given to 0.1 yr, implying a possible track of locations, equivalent to up to a 103-day correction (-4.84s RA and 36.6" Decl) either way.
The fourth USNO-B object also seems confidently from its magnitudes, to be Planet X. Using the 3rd & 4th objects (instead of the 2nd & 3rd objects), the slope d(Decl)/d(RA) is 1.35% less steep. Such a true slope would result in a correction of -54.2" Decl.
Based on these USNO-B objects, then, the narrowed search region is a parallelogram with area 2.2 sq arcminute (0.0006 sq deg) and corners:
RA 11h 06m 5.34s
Decl -6deg 28' 57.1"
RA 11h 05m 55.66s
Decl -6deg 27' 43.9"
RA 11h 06m 5.34s
Decl -6deg 29' 51.3"
RA 11h 05m 55.66s
Decl -6deg 28' 38.1"
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17 years 10 months ago #16387
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Hi Joe,
Would your extrapolations for time period of a circular orbit of 4535 yr change with an elliptical orbit? Orbital speeds would accelerate towards and away from the sun, plus Planet X may be surrounded by planetoids, debris fields and trailing asteroids and comets (former oceans) from previous collisions, e.g., destruction of Fifth Planet forming asteroid belt. Thus the former retrograde circular orbit of a former binary star is now in a extreme elliptical orbit from being thrown out of our solar system from such a collision or gravitational interference near miss causing EPH.
An elliptical orbit would result in a constantly shifting tidal effect from Planet X that would be felt by all planets in our solar system during its flight around sun.
Regarding historical perspective, the myths of a world wide deluge and even biblical revelations depictions of stars falling from heaven and skies turning red might account for a six sided refraction or “Star of David” during close encounters. Also, we could search for periods of higher intensities of meteorite bombardments as a possible indication of passage of Planet X. I did manage to find one large impact around the 10800 B.C. period near the Andes leaving a large crater.
Most star systems are binary and it may be that planetoids are the result of solar plasmas separating into two halves causing the initial spreading of mass and following orbital planetoids around the larger gravitational body (all in concert with overall structure and motion of Universe).
John
Would your extrapolations for time period of a circular orbit of 4535 yr change with an elliptical orbit? Orbital speeds would accelerate towards and away from the sun, plus Planet X may be surrounded by planetoids, debris fields and trailing asteroids and comets (former oceans) from previous collisions, e.g., destruction of Fifth Planet forming asteroid belt. Thus the former retrograde circular orbit of a former binary star is now in a extreme elliptical orbit from being thrown out of our solar system from such a collision or gravitational interference near miss causing EPH.
An elliptical orbit would result in a constantly shifting tidal effect from Planet X that would be felt by all planets in our solar system during its flight around sun.
Regarding historical perspective, the myths of a world wide deluge and even biblical revelations depictions of stars falling from heaven and skies turning red might account for a six sided refraction or “Star of David” during close encounters. Also, we could search for periods of higher intensities of meteorite bombardments as a possible indication of passage of Planet X. I did manage to find one large impact around the 10800 B.C. period near the Andes leaving a large crater.
Most star systems are binary and it may be that planetoids are the result of solar plasmas separating into two halves causing the initial spreading of mass and following orbital planetoids around the larger gravitational body (all in concert with overall structure and motion of Universe).
John
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<br />Hi Joe,
Would your extrapolations for time period of a circular orbit of 4535 yr change with an elliptical orbit? Orbital speeds would accelerate towards and away from the sun, plus Planet X may be surrounded by planetoids, debris fields and trailing asteroids and comets (former oceans) from previous collisions, e.g., destruction of Fifth Planet forming asteroid belt. Thus the former retrograde circular orbit of a former binary star is now in a extreme elliptical orbit from being thrown out of our solar system from such a collision or gravitational interference near miss causing EPH.
An elliptical orbit would result in a constantly shifting tidal effect from Planet X that would be felt by all planets in our solar system during its flight around sun.
Regarding historical perspective, the myths of a world wide deluge and even biblical revelations depictions of stars falling from heaven and skies turning red might account for a six sided refraction or “Star of David” during close encounters. Also, we could search for periods of higher intensities of meteorite bombardments as a possible indication of passage of Planet X. I did manage to find one large impact around the 10800 B.C. period near the Andes leaving a large crater.
Most star systems are binary and it may be that planetoids are the result of solar plasmas separating into two halves causing the initial spreading of mass and following orbital planetoids around the larger gravitational body (all in concert with overall structure and motion of Universe).
John
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Thanks for passing along this wealth of interesting ideas. I think I can address some of them.
<br />Hi Joe,
Would your extrapolations for time period of a circular orbit of 4535 yr change with an elliptical orbit? Orbital speeds would accelerate towards and away from the sun, plus Planet X may be surrounded by planetoids, debris fields and trailing asteroids and comets (former oceans) from previous collisions, e.g., destruction of Fifth Planet forming asteroid belt. Thus the former retrograde circular orbit of a former binary star is now in a extreme elliptical orbit from being thrown out of our solar system from such a collision or gravitational interference near miss causing EPH.
An elliptical orbit would result in a constantly shifting tidal effect from Planet X that would be felt by all planets in our solar system during its flight around sun.
Regarding historical perspective, the myths of a world wide deluge and even biblical revelations depictions of stars falling from heaven and skies turning red might account for a six sided refraction or “Star of David” during close encounters. Also, we could search for periods of higher intensities of meteorite bombardments as a possible indication of passage of Planet X. I did manage to find one large impact around the 10800 B.C. period near the Andes leaving a large crater.
Most star systems are binary and it may be that planetoids are the result of solar plasmas separating into two halves causing the initial spreading of mass and following orbital planetoids around the larger gravitational body (all in concert with overall structure and motion of Universe).
John
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Thanks for passing along this wealth of interesting ideas. I think I can address some of them.
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