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The entropy of systems
19 years 2 months ago #12676
by GD
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..... Hot off the press.......
www.spacedaily.com/news/climate-05zzzzzb.html
... and spectacular images of the sun...
(most images taken at solar maximum.)
www.space.com/php/multimedia/imagegaller...p?imgid=3276&gid=243
www.spacedaily.com/news/climate-05zzzzzb.html
... and spectacular images of the sun...
(most images taken at solar maximum.)
www.space.com/php/multimedia/imagegaller...p?imgid=3276&gid=243
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19 years 2 months ago #12808
by GD
Seems the "neutrino" is having a hard time remaining in existance.
I've searched the web and found phrases such as:
- "neutrinoless double beta decay"
- "neutrino decoherence survival probability"
- "neutrino decay"
etc...
The paper below explains neutrino oscillations:
arxiv.org/PS_cache/hep-ex/pdf/0404/0404034.pdf
Nowhere is anybody talking about closed systems, increased entropy!
Amazing!
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Seems the "neutrino" is having a hard time remaining in existance.
I've searched the web and found phrases such as:
- "neutrinoless double beta decay"
- "neutrino decoherence survival probability"
- "neutrino decay"
etc...
The paper below explains neutrino oscillations:
arxiv.org/PS_cache/hep-ex/pdf/0404/0404034.pdf
Nowhere is anybody talking about closed systems, increased entropy!
Amazing!
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19 years 2 months ago #14506
by PhilJ
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Nowhere is anybody talking about closed systems, increased entropy!
Amazing!<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">That would not be surprising, since there are no closed systems; even in the lab, a system can't be close and yield information to the outside. Everyone assumes that the universe is closed; I say, if it's infinite, then we can't know if it is open or closed. If new space is being created all the time, as BB says, then we have infinite new space into which to dump our entropy, so it's open.
However, people are talking about it. Here are 19,500 discussions about it.
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Nowhere is anybody talking about closed systems, increased entropy!
Amazing!<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">That would not be surprising, since there are no closed systems; even in the lab, a system can't be close and yield information to the outside. Everyone assumes that the universe is closed; I say, if it's infinite, then we can't know if it is open or closed. If new space is being created all the time, as BB says, then we have infinite new space into which to dump our entropy, so it's open.
However, people are talking about it. Here are 19,500 discussions about it.
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19 years 2 months ago #12699
by GD
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However, people are talking about it. Here are 19,500 discussions about it.
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Sorry, but your 19,500 discussions do not all agree on the subject: ie: "we do not agree with <b>closed system </b>theories."
or " this appliance works in a <b>closed </b>circuit... these <b>systems</b>..."
we do not search the web using the same criteria:
Try this:
- Find recent (2000-2005) papers or articles on the latest physics from reputable sources (universities ..etc.) , then search in these documents their interpretation or implications on subjects such as cosmology....
For example the neutrino decay is quite recent info and will affect how we perceive things. These new discoveries will change the (patched-up)18th century physics we are using today.
Therefore your search should include: neutrino decay, latest physics, articles, recent, closed system, summary or conclusion, cosmology....
If you find something please <b>show me</b>.
Thanks Philj.
However, people are talking about it. Here are 19,500 discussions about it.
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Sorry, but your 19,500 discussions do not all agree on the subject: ie: "we do not agree with <b>closed system </b>theories."
or " this appliance works in a <b>closed </b>circuit... these <b>systems</b>..."
we do not search the web using the same criteria:
Try this:
- Find recent (2000-2005) papers or articles on the latest physics from reputable sources (universities ..etc.) , then search in these documents their interpretation or implications on subjects such as cosmology....
For example the neutrino decay is quite recent info and will affect how we perceive things. These new discoveries will change the (patched-up)18th century physics we are using today.
Therefore your search should include: neutrino decay, latest physics, articles, recent, closed system, summary or conclusion, cosmology....
If you find something please <b>show me</b>.
Thanks Philj.
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19 years 2 months ago #12713
by GD
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I found some comments on supersymmetry theory:
"Experimentalists have not yet found any superpartners for known particles, possibly because they are too massive to be created in our current particle accelerators. Hopefully, by the year 2008 the Large Hadron Collider at CERN should be ready for use, producing collisions at sufficiently high energies to detect the superpartners many theorists expect to see."
If supersymmetry theory ends up being false, could dark energy theory also be false?
In other words: is the universe being "pushed" or is it "falling" (running down)?
Here is a paper dated 2004 indicating a failed attempt to find "superpartners". These experiments were carried out in order to validate the supersymmetry (SUSY) theory:
www.slac.stanford.edu/econf/C040802/papers/TUT004.PDF
"Experimentalists have not yet found any superpartners for known particles, possibly because they are too massive to be created in our current particle accelerators. Hopefully, by the year 2008 the Large Hadron Collider at CERN should be ready for use, producing collisions at sufficiently high energies to detect the superpartners many theorists expect to see."
If supersymmetry theory ends up being false, could dark energy theory also be false?
In other words: is the universe being "pushed" or is it "falling" (running down)?
Here is a paper dated 2004 indicating a failed attempt to find "superpartners". These experiments were carried out in order to validate the supersymmetry (SUSY) theory:
www.slac.stanford.edu/econf/C040802/papers/TUT004.PDF
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19 years 2 months ago #14383
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I think we can get rid of the theory of dark energy with the following assumptions:
The acceleration of distant stars we observe from earth is probably due to the combined acceleration of our solar system in the galaxy and the galaxy itself moving towards "the great attractor" (see previous messages).
- <b>No dark energy needed</b> -
The acceleration of distant stars we observe from earth is probably due to the combined acceleration of our solar system in the galaxy and the galaxy itself moving towards "the great attractor" (see previous messages).
- <b>No dark energy needed</b> -
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