Gravitational Engineering - A Basic Transceiver

Samizdat,

I understand your grief. But this in inescapable. I understand you're looking for practical or engineering ways to measure FTL or gravitons. But before this is done, the metaphysical questions must be understood, otherwise devising any experiments is impossible.

See the new topic thread "Processes and Pseudo Processes".

Larry, the Fogal semiconductor may be one of the keys to unlocking superluminal capabilities.

Hello Samizdat,

Hmmm. I haven't had time to look over more than the first few hits on this, but it would seem to deserve a little more attention. IOW, my BS detector is not in the "waste of time" region yet.

But I do have a few problems with what I've found so far. Perhaps you know of specific information that addresses these issues:

1) The inventor uses some non standard jargon. Without clearly defining some of it. And even standard jargon, when use in the context of a "new discovery", probably needs to be explicitly discussed to show whether or not its meaning has changed.

2) An article about the discovery mentions "energy flow" that moves at 100 c. But the inventor's main article about the invention is silent on this.

It seems to me that if he is able to generate an EASILY detectable signal at a range of 2000 feet (about 1830 nano light seconds), this would be one of the easiest properties to demonstrate.

And by far the most significant. So much more significant than noise reduction and bandwidth increase that I wonder why he even bothers to mention these except as a footnote.

3) The article about the inventor mentions one of the mainstream engineers commenting that if the claimed effects are real, the invention is at the point where the next step is to throw millions of dollars at it and see if it is economically practical.

Which is the problem we have with something like the Walker-Dual experiment.

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However - since the inventor claims to have been able to produce a detectable signal at 2000 feet with only a few simple parts, perhaps he is just dumb as a rock and doesn't realize that the FTL aspect is as important as it is.

If someone on this board were to try to reproduce this effect it would seem possible to do it on a small budget. If successful, it would then seem possible to measure the signal travel time (or compare it to the same signal sent over a parallel light beam or radio channel) with a small additional expense.

The difference in arrival time of the two signals should be easy to detect.

If it is real.

Regards,
LB

I've found what might be an answer to my issue #1. A glossary at one of the first two hits. But now I have issue # 1A; too much information (as in much of it seems unrelated to the question at hand).

(Oh well, be careful what you ask for ...)

LB

Tom,

I seriously doubt if that gravimeter was responding directly to your gravitational attraction to it. More likely, it was responding to the seismic accelerations from your footsteps thru the floor, and that is a measure of your vertical acceleration as you walk. The gravitational field produced by your own mass is extremely tiny. To find your attraction to the gravimeter, take the ratio of your mass to that of the Earth and divide by the square of the ratio of your distance from the gravimeter and the radius of the Earth. I think you'll find that you exert much less than 1 billionth of a G on the gravimeter--which is below the sensitivity of the instrument.

Sorry I lack time to do the calculation; I'm going to lose my internet connection in 2 minutes; get it back in three days.

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That is easily within range of modern, high-precision gravimeters. And it was the gravimeter technicians, not me, who pointed out that the gravimeter was tracking my motion around the room. This was not a seismometer and does not normally sense earthquakes.

Besides, what has that to do with the point? We detect gravitational force changes every day in a myriad of ways, but have never detected a gravitational wave. I am just trying to make the physics obvious to those who can't easily see the same conclusion in the math of GR. Force changes affect acceleration at first order in velocity. Gravitational waves do not have any effect until fifth order in velocity. -|Tom|-