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Free Will inside the multiverse.
16 years 1 week ago #15008
by Leo Vuyk
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SO: The base for Fee Will is the possibility to VETO an act, and NOT
THE INTENTION OR URGE TO ACT.
That was also the conclusion which Benjamin Libet made about free
will, without the multiverse foundation.
I personally assume that we are equipped with a so called intuition
PUMP which is responsible for our intentions and urges and which is
connected to our global world heritage of our past and act as a world
consciousness ( or Noosphere, suggested by Teilhard de Chardin).
If our past is agressive, we and our children will also have an
agressive intuition pump!
Leo Vuyk.
bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/
THE INTENTION OR URGE TO ACT.
That was also the conclusion which Benjamin Libet made about free
will, without the multiverse foundation.
I personally assume that we are equipped with a so called intuition
PUMP which is responsible for our intentions and urges and which is
connected to our global world heritage of our past and act as a world
consciousness ( or Noosphere, suggested by Teilhard de Chardin).
If our past is agressive, we and our children will also have an
agressive intuition pump!
Leo Vuyk.
bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/
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16 years 3 days ago #15640
by Leo Vuyk
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Humans and the Cosmic Law of Free choice between Hatred and
Forgivingness .
We humans are quantum mechanical systems, who are only able to follow
the quantum mechanical rules of the Universe, which we merely partly
know and understand. Consequently we have to search and innovate
these rules to find out who we are, and how reality can be described
ontologically . Our understanding of the world is restricted by an
ontological gap, between scientific language and reality, therefore
we have to search for a bridge. This thesis is an attempt to describe
possible outlines of that bridge.
It is postulated, that the basic features of the Universe must be of
a type that allows the evolution of dual mirror symmetric, EPR
correlated observers outside the "system", which means that "we and
elementary particles" are always correlated by "instantaneous action
at-a-distance" acting between dual correlated universes. If we take a
Chiral Quantum Mechanical Universe as a "system", then The Universe
that we know is only a half-truth, without a "broken symmetry", and
we should have a mutual observer- and guiding relation with at least
one spatial separated anti-mirror Universe.
Consequently, the so called "superposition- and collapse events" in
the universe are only the half truth, all these events are based
on "instantaneous information flow" called "actions at a distance"
or "Big Bang entanglement " between at least two spatial separated
events in different universes. Even if we measure a collapse event in
the laboratory between "local" related particles in an EPR
experiment, which is also supposed to have an instantaneous non-local
collapse relation, this dual universal "BB entanglement" should be
also present on top of it.
Then I suggest that each elementary particle is instantaneous
observed and/or guided without the time for "reflection", by its
distant shadow anti-particle in our dual anti-mirror Universe. The
difference with human choices is supposed to be, that humans are
equipped with enough time for reflection (retarded EPR correlation or
retarded Big Bang entanglement ) to develop what we call Free Will by
Vetoing urges and intentions (Benjamin Libet), and become aware of
moral differences, and even altruism and forgivingness.
Consequently if this increase in reflection time is related to the
evolutionary increase of complexity of cells, the goal of human
evolution seems to be the creation of moral awareness, made by
animate dual synchronized logic quantum computers with enough time
for "reflection", like our dual synchronized brains.
The Cosmic Law seems to be, that we are only free to VETO our
deterministic urges and intentions and only Free to VETO those urges
based on egoistic or Altruistic awareness. However it is supposed
that we never will be able to prove some kind of relation between our
life after dead and the way we have managed to become "moral aware"
and were able to choose for egoism or altruism, for hatred or
forgivingness, as described in the bible. If we could prove such a
relation, we would not have this RESTRICTED VETOING FREE WILL any
more.
Thus: Descarte's: "I think therefore I am" should change into: "I am
a QM system, which is always non-local instantaneous EPR correlated,
and in competition for Free Will by VETOING the choices of my
opposite anti-I, living in a dual anti-mirror universe, therefore We
are! We are dual co-authors of our common life".
Leo Vuyk.
bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/
Forgivingness .
We humans are quantum mechanical systems, who are only able to follow
the quantum mechanical rules of the Universe, which we merely partly
know and understand. Consequently we have to search and innovate
these rules to find out who we are, and how reality can be described
ontologically . Our understanding of the world is restricted by an
ontological gap, between scientific language and reality, therefore
we have to search for a bridge. This thesis is an attempt to describe
possible outlines of that bridge.
It is postulated, that the basic features of the Universe must be of
a type that allows the evolution of dual mirror symmetric, EPR
correlated observers outside the "system", which means that "we and
elementary particles" are always correlated by "instantaneous action
at-a-distance" acting between dual correlated universes. If we take a
Chiral Quantum Mechanical Universe as a "system", then The Universe
that we know is only a half-truth, without a "broken symmetry", and
we should have a mutual observer- and guiding relation with at least
one spatial separated anti-mirror Universe.
Consequently, the so called "superposition- and collapse events" in
the universe are only the half truth, all these events are based
on "instantaneous information flow" called "actions at a distance"
or "Big Bang entanglement " between at least two spatial separated
events in different universes. Even if we measure a collapse event in
the laboratory between "local" related particles in an EPR
experiment, which is also supposed to have an instantaneous non-local
collapse relation, this dual universal "BB entanglement" should be
also present on top of it.
Then I suggest that each elementary particle is instantaneous
observed and/or guided without the time for "reflection", by its
distant shadow anti-particle in our dual anti-mirror Universe. The
difference with human choices is supposed to be, that humans are
equipped with enough time for reflection (retarded EPR correlation or
retarded Big Bang entanglement ) to develop what we call Free Will by
Vetoing urges and intentions (Benjamin Libet), and become aware of
moral differences, and even altruism and forgivingness.
Consequently if this increase in reflection time is related to the
evolutionary increase of complexity of cells, the goal of human
evolution seems to be the creation of moral awareness, made by
animate dual synchronized logic quantum computers with enough time
for "reflection", like our dual synchronized brains.
The Cosmic Law seems to be, that we are only free to VETO our
deterministic urges and intentions and only Free to VETO those urges
based on egoistic or Altruistic awareness. However it is supposed
that we never will be able to prove some kind of relation between our
life after dead and the way we have managed to become "moral aware"
and were able to choose for egoism or altruism, for hatred or
forgivingness, as described in the bible. If we could prove such a
relation, we would not have this RESTRICTED VETOING FREE WILL any
more.
Thus: Descarte's: "I think therefore I am" should change into: "I am
a QM system, which is always non-local instantaneous EPR correlated,
and in competition for Free Will by VETOING the choices of my
opposite anti-I, living in a dual anti-mirror universe, therefore We
are! We are dual co-authors of our common life".
Leo Vuyk.
bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/
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16 years 2 days ago #15641
by Leo Vuyk
Replied by Leo Vuyk on topic Reply from
Is there a free choice between Hatred and Forgivingness, peace and aggression.
Schrdingers Cat paradox solution and Free will inside the multiverse
The paradox of Schrdinger's cat is exemplified in the famous thought experiment in which a cat in a box can be said to be both alive and dead.
It is traditionally thought that the act of observation, opening the box to check the cat, is what forces it to settle into a state, living or dead.
If, as Everett argued, quantum mechanics is applied to the whole universe, then it too should exist in a multitude of separate states.
There would be a "multiverse" of parallel universes - one for every physical possibility
This introduces the idea that with each wavefunction collapse a new universe splits off .
However, in my new model, an even set and fixed number of symmetrical (anti-) universes is present from the start of the big bang and even before
According to my model, every physical possibility is happening inside at least two CPT ( ( Charge Parity and Time) symmetric (anti-)copy universes, simply by the collapse of a wavefunction inside only one universe is supposed to be the trigger of the opposite but anti-symmetrical wavefunction collapse inside the entangled other universe(s)..
That is the base for one of my former Free Will postings:
Free Will inside the multiverse.
Benjamin Libet measured the so called electric Readiness Potential (RP) time to perform a volitional act, in the brains of his students and the time of conscious awareness (TCA) of that act, which appeared to come 500 msec behind the RP. The volitional act was the by free choice pressing on an electric bell button.
see:
skeptically.org/spiritualism/id11.html
The results of this experiment gives still an ongoing debate in the broad layers of the scientific community, because the results are still (also in recent experiments) in firm contrast with the expected idea of Free Will and causality.
We would expect that based on causality the Time of Conscious Awareness (TCA) ALWAYS comes before the electric RP, which is found to be present in our head because this would be the proof that we humans are equipped with the free will to press on the button at the moment WE are also conscious to do that!!!.
HOWEVER Libet (and later all other researchers) measured the opposite for most of the students. Only a FEW students reported to have PREPLANNED their ACTION (RPI in the next figure)
3.bp.blogspot.com/_ArDoWzECXSo/SIi5189lB...ET+PERCENTAGES+2.jpg
A causal but weird Multiverse solution.
If we assume that we are living inside one of the 12 postulated copy universes, which are each others observer by mutual entanglement to trigger randomly and alternating the collapse of the copy wavefunctions, (thus also to trigger a volitional act, like Libet's subjects) in the other 11 universes.
Then as a consequence, we may expect that only a small part of the students will report to have had the conscious intention to act earlier. Thus in the case of 12 entangled universes we may expect that 1/12 part or 8,3 % of all (human) timing of conscious intention to act, will show a reversed timing sequence between the so called Time of conscious awareness (TCA) which will come BEFORE the electric Readiness Potential (RP).
3.bp.blogspot.com/_ArDoWzECXSo/SIi5189lB...ET+PERCENTAGES+2.jpg
Indications of those percentages, are already found by Judy Trevena and Jeff Miller (Otago university NZ). See:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?c...ds=12191935&dopt=Abs
The Benjamin Libet percentage results of pre-planning (RPII) are very poor quantified in his and later experiments.
Reason to do it again with more precision on the readiness potential percentage differences between RPI and RPII..
If humans are entangled cooperating decision makers inside the postulated 8 or 12 entangled but separated universes, then for every decision we need always only one preplanning test-person who pre-plans his choice. The other 7 or 11 test copy-persons are only able to follow OR REJECT this decision.
As a result we may be able to measure (in the future) the number of copy universes involved, by counting the average percentages of preplanning persons in test situation like the Libet test..
For 12 universes the RPI percentage will be 100/12=8,3%. For 8 universes RP I will be 12,5% For RP II it will be 91,7 respectively 87,5%
God plays dice, with at least two entangled dice, each located inside one of the separated universes at a distance.
Every time there is a wavefunction collapse, the opposite wavefunction collapse happens inside the entangled anti-copy universes a split second later.
SO: The base for Fee Will is the possibility to VETO an act, and NOT
THE INTENTION OR URGE TO ACT.
That was also the conclusion which Benjamin Libet made about free
will, without the multiverse foundation.
I personally assume that we are equipped with a so called intuition
PUMP which is responsible for our intentions and urges and which is
connected to our global world heritage of our past and act as a world
consciousness ( or Nosphere, suggested by Teilhard de Chardin).
Our intuition pump is filled with all the knowledge of the our local and even family related past.
Consequently if our past is aggressive, we and our children will also have an
intuition pump offering us aggressive dreams and ideas!
Perhaps is this also one of the origins of ancestor cults.
Leo Vuyk.
bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/
Schrdingers Cat paradox solution and Free will inside the multiverse
The paradox of Schrdinger's cat is exemplified in the famous thought experiment in which a cat in a box can be said to be both alive and dead.
It is traditionally thought that the act of observation, opening the box to check the cat, is what forces it to settle into a state, living or dead.
If, as Everett argued, quantum mechanics is applied to the whole universe, then it too should exist in a multitude of separate states.
There would be a "multiverse" of parallel universes - one for every physical possibility
This introduces the idea that with each wavefunction collapse a new universe splits off .
However, in my new model, an even set and fixed number of symmetrical (anti-) universes is present from the start of the big bang and even before
According to my model, every physical possibility is happening inside at least two CPT ( ( Charge Parity and Time) symmetric (anti-)copy universes, simply by the collapse of a wavefunction inside only one universe is supposed to be the trigger of the opposite but anti-symmetrical wavefunction collapse inside the entangled other universe(s)..
That is the base for one of my former Free Will postings:
Free Will inside the multiverse.
Benjamin Libet measured the so called electric Readiness Potential (RP) time to perform a volitional act, in the brains of his students and the time of conscious awareness (TCA) of that act, which appeared to come 500 msec behind the RP. The volitional act was the by free choice pressing on an electric bell button.
see:
skeptically.org/spiritualism/id11.html
The results of this experiment gives still an ongoing debate in the broad layers of the scientific community, because the results are still (also in recent experiments) in firm contrast with the expected idea of Free Will and causality.
We would expect that based on causality the Time of Conscious Awareness (TCA) ALWAYS comes before the electric RP, which is found to be present in our head because this would be the proof that we humans are equipped with the free will to press on the button at the moment WE are also conscious to do that!!!.
HOWEVER Libet (and later all other researchers) measured the opposite for most of the students. Only a FEW students reported to have PREPLANNED their ACTION (RPI in the next figure)
3.bp.blogspot.com/_ArDoWzECXSo/SIi5189lB...ET+PERCENTAGES+2.jpg
A causal but weird Multiverse solution.
If we assume that we are living inside one of the 12 postulated copy universes, which are each others observer by mutual entanglement to trigger randomly and alternating the collapse of the copy wavefunctions, (thus also to trigger a volitional act, like Libet's subjects) in the other 11 universes.
Then as a consequence, we may expect that only a small part of the students will report to have had the conscious intention to act earlier. Thus in the case of 12 entangled universes we may expect that 1/12 part or 8,3 % of all (human) timing of conscious intention to act, will show a reversed timing sequence between the so called Time of conscious awareness (TCA) which will come BEFORE the electric Readiness Potential (RP).
3.bp.blogspot.com/_ArDoWzECXSo/SIi5189lB...ET+PERCENTAGES+2.jpg
Indications of those percentages, are already found by Judy Trevena and Jeff Miller (Otago university NZ). See:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?c...ds=12191935&dopt=Abs
The Benjamin Libet percentage results of pre-planning (RPII) are very poor quantified in his and later experiments.
Reason to do it again with more precision on the readiness potential percentage differences between RPI and RPII..
If humans are entangled cooperating decision makers inside the postulated 8 or 12 entangled but separated universes, then for every decision we need always only one preplanning test-person who pre-plans his choice. The other 7 or 11 test copy-persons are only able to follow OR REJECT this decision.
As a result we may be able to measure (in the future) the number of copy universes involved, by counting the average percentages of preplanning persons in test situation like the Libet test..
For 12 universes the RPI percentage will be 100/12=8,3%. For 8 universes RP I will be 12,5% For RP II it will be 91,7 respectively 87,5%
God plays dice, with at least two entangled dice, each located inside one of the separated universes at a distance.
Every time there is a wavefunction collapse, the opposite wavefunction collapse happens inside the entangled anti-copy universes a split second later.
SO: The base for Fee Will is the possibility to VETO an act, and NOT
THE INTENTION OR URGE TO ACT.
That was also the conclusion which Benjamin Libet made about free
will, without the multiverse foundation.
I personally assume that we are equipped with a so called intuition
PUMP which is responsible for our intentions and urges and which is
connected to our global world heritage of our past and act as a world
consciousness ( or Nosphere, suggested by Teilhard de Chardin).
Our intuition pump is filled with all the knowledge of the our local and even family related past.
Consequently if our past is aggressive, we and our children will also have an
intuition pump offering us aggressive dreams and ideas!
Perhaps is this also one of the origins of ancestor cults.
Leo Vuyk.
bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/
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