Gravitational Shielding

I am glad that you ran into the same mental huh that I did. I thought I could express my idea coherently. I guess it is not easy to control graviton flux through selectively permeable membranes. Also, KVF, I would like to manufacture gravitons as well. Oh the possibilities! Anyway, good points.

really, though, I think the idea will be simpler than it seems. Are we forgetting anything here?

are there any unaccounted forces at work.

Oh how about a very pointy object ^ where the top is reflective to gravitons but the wide bottom accepts them and concentrates them at one point (a parabolic shape) down. Net upwards force could be generated with the reflective hits on the top and sides stabalizing the upward thrust? Well there's a stab anyway.

Mark Vitrone

You may be getting ahead of ourselves here. The graviton is a pure speculation at this point. One may end up spending a whole life time trying to deflect or generate something there is simple no proof it exists.

The scientific way to go about developing a gravity machine is to first find a way to detect gravitons. The method of detection will itself provide a clue as to if and how it may be possible to affect graviton behavior. Otherwise, one relies on exaustive experimentation based on luck, which is clearly not the way to go in getting any credible results.

True. Detecting gravitons using EM means may prove to be impossible. Instead observations directed at detecting disturbances caused by gravitons may be a start. Who knows.

Mark Vitrone

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You may be getting ahead of ourselves here. The graviton is a pure speculation at this point. One may end up spending a whole life time trying to deflect or generate something there is simple no proof it exists.

The scientific way to go about developing a gravity machine is to first find a way to detect gravitons. The method of detection will itself provide a clue as to if and how it may be possible to affect graviton behavior. Otherwise, one relies on exaustive experimentation based on luck, which is clearly not the way to go in getting any credible results.

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It sounds like what you’re saying is that speculating on for instance Gravitational Shielding or levitation would be premature. Sounds like we should go after the person who started this thread.

Kevin

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It sounds like what you’re saying is that speculating on for instance Gravitational Shielding or levitation would be premature.

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Exactly, in the graviton sense, that's true unless we have confirmed the existense of the graviton. Otherwise, even if there ia a full or partial shielding, there is no indication that's due to interactions with gravitons. In simple words, the method is not scientific.

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Sounds like we should go after the person who started this thread.

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I started this topic to question the viability of shields like dense spheres proposed by TVF, in the presense of assumed gravitons. My point is that they do not shield gravity. They shield gravitons. That's a big difference. Since graviton gravity is pushing gravity, shielding gravitons does not necessarily shield gravity, in my own view.

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I read TVF's suggestion of making a dense enough sphere to shield gravity. However, making a few simple calculations I conclude the following:

1. A dense enough sphere will increase the force excerted by gravitons onn earth but not the force excerted by gravitons on the sphere. This is due to virtually no graviton leaving the dense sphere, whereas the same amount of graviton density is leaving earth.

2. The net result is that the earth will be pushed towards the sphere, an action similar to the sphere moving towards the earth

3. The only way to shield gravity is to make a sphere that will absorb the same exactly flux of gravitons as earth does. It must be exactly the same, otherwise, motion of either the sphere towards the earth or the earth towards the sphere will occur.

4. It seems that Pushing Gravity theory generates a singularity for gravity shielding: M=0, i.e nothing to shield for.

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But if you are frustrated failing to either detect gravitons or shield gravity at all , what can I say then, just go after me..<img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle>

I here what your saying about shielding gravitons and preventing gravity are not the same thing. Maybe we are going at it from the wrong direction, what if our object is to instead create a region where no MI's exist. Gravitons would be free to flow through without pushing on anything. This region if large enough and if built into an object containing regions of dense MI's could then sail the graviton sea so to speak. The geometry would have to be worked out to maximize the force vector. Well, its Saturday. <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>