Speaking of Unicorns...

I believe in unicorns and fantasy in general. The thing is it should be noted as fantasy and not passed off as reality in my opinion.

I'll go along with that, Jim.

Any thoughts on my "Gravitational Force Tuner" idea?

I like the concept, but it hinges very much on the speed of the wave/graviton you are trying to detect, which we don't know. Without that knowledge, there's no way we can pinpoint the actual, or gravitationally retarded position of the source. Of course, according to Newtonian mechanics, gravity propagates instantly, so in theory you could calculate back to the sources actual position - it would be a laugh if this approach were taken and a positive result achieved.

If the recent Podkletnov's gravity gun turns anything real, that gun's output pulse has a good chance to be sensitive to external gravitational signals - it would act as an amplifier for external directional gravity pulses. The transmitting capability of the thing is self-evident...

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I reference here also Agorabasta's 21 Oct 2002 : 13:51:46 of this thread and Atko's post to "Boeing and Anti-gravity" thread under the "Gravity and Relativity" board ("14 Oct 2002 : 08:15:12

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Ahh...you mean kind of like a graviton gun? Methinks if this proves to be valid research, ftl communication may well drop out as a bonus.")

Interesting that Atko's musing about ftl communication preceded my original 'gravitational force tuner' post by a day: I had avoided the Boeing thread completely till yesterday, the 22nd. Could be coincidence; then again, if we agree with Wal Thornhill of Holoscience.com, that living cells communicate over vast distances instantaneously, there may be unconscious influence at work here. If that sounds crazy, I would paraphrase Niels Bohr and ask "whether it is crazy enough." Maybe information packets are not great respecters of discussion board border crossings, and impart information to electrons (or other particles) quite independently of our intentions, or perhaps because of those intentions. But I digress.

I have not thoroughly digested the Podkletnov/Modanese paper: can anyone tell me whether they claim or indicate that the beam is divergent, or maintains constant width at distance? I presume they are oblivious to ftl potential? What would be the necessary parameters of an experiment set up to determine the round trip elapsed time and speed of the beam? Could it be 'bounced' as is done with Earth-based lasers reflected off the moon?

As tvf is conspicuous by his silence, I suspect he is biding his time till someone says something either fabulously stupid or brilliant. Either way, I look forward to inputs from any and all.

In there saerch to disprove tehm they have stumbled on to evidence pro graviton people can use, and also that ensures a smarter scientific community

The intuitive mind