The Conceptual Flaw of a 'Curved Space'

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<br />Einsten's theory of relativity explained the curvature of space to explain the relationship between the planets and the sun and how they orbit around one another via gravity.
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As explained above, space can't have any curvature.
Planets orbit around the sun because the masses exert a force on each other. Everything else is not only pure metaphysics but conceptually inconsistent.

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Wrong, massess exert forces on eachother because of Newtonian physics.Light bends around the sun during an eclipse.

ryan Henningsgaard

Ryan

When we talk of space curvature we talk of the gravity curve.
Gravity will always be there and so space will show curves.
Take away gravity what have you to curve.

Nothing sapce cannot have a curve.

Harry

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<br />Wrong, massess exert forces on eachother because of Newtonian physics.Light bends around the sun during an eclipse.
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Nobody questions that light bends around the sun. Yet this can not be interpreted as a space curvature but merely as a curvature of the path of the light ray <i>within</i> (euclidean) space. This holds independently of the actual physical reason for the bending as a conceptual matter of principle.

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considering "all" in a universe curvature explains a cradle that hold the planet in orbit. Yes a straight line is a straight line and we describe reference frames in planes; a straight line turned on it's side and I know where you are going with this if time is bent then the universe is bounded but does it mean time had a beginning and I say no.

ryan Henningsgaard

Ok,
Space if defined with its properties.Than space is curved.

Harry