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18 years 2 months ago #16263
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Replied by neilderosa on topic Reply from Neil DeRosa
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I think rd's comment was referring to the lack of horizontal resolution in MOLA data, which is not curable. For example, we cannot measure the height of the nose ridge or the depth of the eye socket because the beam is so wide that the data can give only the average range to each of those area. -|Tom|-<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Understood. But I was referring to a method that used other than the published data. The information is in an expanded version of the PI paper published in MRB. I don't think there is a link to it yet. I'll have to go back and check my facts before I say more.
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Understood. But I was referring to a method that used other than the published data. The information is in an expanded version of the PI paper published in MRB. I don't think there is a link to it yet. I'll have to go back and check my facts before I say more.
Neil
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18 years 2 months ago #17613
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">The originals are all available, but each shows less detail than we are accustomed to seeing, and the composite has simply blurred many features by averaging many different views. One such original is shown below.
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I've tried but not yet succeeded in finding them. (Some help would be appreciated.)
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">The only real advantage is the addition of color. There really is a hint of blue in the west eye, something quite unexpected for natural terrain.
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The future looks bright. BTW, what is the resolution of the image you showed?
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I've tried but not yet succeeded in finding them. (Some help would be appreciated.)
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">The only real advantage is the addition of color. There really is a hint of blue in the west eye, something quite unexpected for natural terrain.
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The future looks bright. BTW, what is the resolution of the image you showed?
Neil
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18 years 2 months ago #17744
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Replied by rderosa on topic Reply from Richard DeRosa
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by neilderosa</i>
<br />But I was referring to a method that used other than the published data. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">True they used data that wasn't published, but they couln't get around the:
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">lack of horizontal resolution in MOLA data, which is not curable<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
They just used more data points in the other direction, and made some assumptions. I read it again recently.
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<br />But I was referring to a method that used other than the published data. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">True they used data that wasn't published, but they couln't get around the:
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">lack of horizontal resolution in MOLA data, which is not curable<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
They just used more data points in the other direction, and made some assumptions. I read it again recently.
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18 years 2 months ago #17745
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Replied by rderosa on topic Reply from Richard DeRosa
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by neilderosa</i>
<br />The future looks bright. BTW, what is the resolution of the image you showed?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
I don't know. This nose in the forehead is going to take some splainin':
Context Image (view from southwest):
Although, like Richard Ney used to say about the Specialists and the Eastern Banking Establishment:
"When you needs an alibi, you takes your pick." {Richard Ney, The Wall Street Jungle}
Nose Forehead, from the other direction:
rd
<br />The future looks bright. BTW, what is the resolution of the image you showed?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
I don't know. This nose in the forehead is going to take some splainin':
Context Image (view from southwest):
Although, like Richard Ney used to say about the Specialists and the Eastern Banking Establishment:
"When you needs an alibi, you takes your pick." {Richard Ney, The Wall Street Jungle}
Nose Forehead, from the other direction:
rd
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18 years 2 months ago #16264
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by neilderosa</i>
<br />Some help would be appreciated.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">I haven't initialized on the Mars Express image archives, but continue to receive contributed images.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">what is the resolution of the image you showed?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">10 meters.
<br />Some help would be appreciated.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">I haven't initialized on the Mars Express image archives, but continue to receive contributed images.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">what is the resolution of the image you showed?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">10 meters.
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18 years 2 months ago #16265
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Replied by tvanflandern on topic Reply from Tom Van Flandern
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by rderosa</i>
<br />This nose in the forehead is going to take some splainin'<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">This composite image was brought to you by the same helpful folks who created the catbox image. (Notice credit to MSSS for just the composite images.) And (by random chance, I'm sure [}]) it was presented to you up-side-down. You showed the damaged chin area, not the forehead. -|Tom|-
<br />This nose in the forehead is going to take some splainin'<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">This composite image was brought to you by the same helpful folks who created the catbox image. (Notice credit to MSSS for just the composite images.) And (by random chance, I'm sure [}]) it was presented to you up-side-down. You showed the damaged chin area, not the forehead. -|Tom|-
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