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Universal Nature of Life
19 years 2 months ago #12777
by Messiah
Reply from Jack McNally was created by Messiah
All knowledge resides within.
The only thing you can 'know' or experience is yourself - and how you react to external (and internal) stimulus. You can't 'know' what it is to be a tree, for example. You would first have to BE the tree, then BE yourself and make a comparison.
The only thing you can 'know' or experience is yourself - and how you react to external (and internal) stimulus. You can't 'know' what it is to be a tree, for example. You would first have to BE the tree, then BE yourself and make a comparison.
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19 years 2 months ago #12782
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Yes, Messiah, I can agree entirely. And while we may be unable to define what exactly that "thing" that we are consists of, ourselves, I think it's an intereting exercise to go over the facts about what we really are, as we know them. They are these (by no means an exhaustive list):
1) Every four years or so, all of the material in our bodies is replaced through metabolic process, multiplication and death of our cells.
2) The replacement material destined to [temporarily] form part of our body is derived from the outer environment.
3) Following premises of the Meta Model, the outer [and inner] environment is limitless.
4) Recognizing the principle of "Conservation of Energy," all of the operations of the universe, all transfer of force, both as EM radiation, or material, must have a reflection, or an echo in matter with which it interracts; (this propogation is infinitely macroscopic, and absorption infinitely microscopic -internal, for our purposes).
Principles of harmonics give us a direction in which to make sense of the phenomenon of life and knowledge, because clearly, the baryon is not sufficient to account for the transfer of energy through different and unlimited scales that MM envisages.
The sine-wave is an apt candidate to replace the baryon, I think. The sine wave can exist - and behave the same - on all scales, preserving an identity of meaning that is usable by the organism (ie. us). And it can faithfully preserve all the information of all material interactions that the matter has undergone (preserved harmonically, at an indeterminate spectrum of scale magnitudes. This, I venture to guess, is perhaps the reason why undefined terms (ie. all of the smallest units of language) are exchangeable between organisms: The matter that makes us up, before enterring and comprising our component parts, has amassed a cumulative internal "resonance signature," that is common to all matter that has survived over the aeons.
I know that this ventures way out into the highly-theoretical, but it seems to "harmonize" with what we know.
1) Every four years or so, all of the material in our bodies is replaced through metabolic process, multiplication and death of our cells.
2) The replacement material destined to [temporarily] form part of our body is derived from the outer environment.
3) Following premises of the Meta Model, the outer [and inner] environment is limitless.
4) Recognizing the principle of "Conservation of Energy," all of the operations of the universe, all transfer of force, both as EM radiation, or material, must have a reflection, or an echo in matter with which it interracts; (this propogation is infinitely macroscopic, and absorption infinitely microscopic -internal, for our purposes).
Principles of harmonics give us a direction in which to make sense of the phenomenon of life and knowledge, because clearly, the baryon is not sufficient to account for the transfer of energy through different and unlimited scales that MM envisages.
The sine-wave is an apt candidate to replace the baryon, I think. The sine wave can exist - and behave the same - on all scales, preserving an identity of meaning that is usable by the organism (ie. us). And it can faithfully preserve all the information of all material interactions that the matter has undergone (preserved harmonically, at an indeterminate spectrum of scale magnitudes. This, I venture to guess, is perhaps the reason why undefined terms (ie. all of the smallest units of language) are exchangeable between organisms: The matter that makes us up, before enterring and comprising our component parts, has amassed a cumulative internal "resonance signature," that is common to all matter that has survived over the aeons.
I know that this ventures way out into the highly-theoretical, but it seems to "harmonize" with what we know.
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