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21 years 10 months ago #5377 by Larry Burford
If the MM is reasonably close to reality the number of hits per micro-atto-femtoSec is so large that no inidvidual impulse could be seen. The particle just feels a continuous "pressure", equal on all sides, and goes nowhere.

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21 years 10 months ago #5078 by tvanflandern
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=2 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>if gravitons exist then a moving particle would at some point along its path get hit by it and we should be able to measure at least the change in momentum.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

The estimated mass of a graviton is perhaps 40 orders of magnitude smaller than the mass of a typical quantum particle. No accelerator existing today can measure momentum changes nearly that accurately.

However, elysons (the unit particles for the elysiun sea) are a different matter. They might be right at the threshold of possible detection. See the following paper for experimental evidence of a possible first detection: Nature 415, ix & 267-268 & 297-299 (2002).
It indicates that "quantum gravitational states" have been observed for the first time. An experiment with ultra-cold neutrons shows that their vertical motion in Earth's gravitational field comes in discrete sizes. The researchers report seeing a minimum (quantum) energy of 1.4 pico-electron volts (1.4x10^-12 eV). This corresponds to a vertical velocity of 1.7 cm/sec for the neutrons in Earth’s gravity field.

By my calculation using E=m*c^2 with this energy, this result suggests the mass of an elyson (unit of the light-carrying medium) is of order 2.5x10^-45 grams, or 1.5x10^-21 of the proton rest mass. -|Tom|-


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21 years 10 months ago #5080 by mechanic
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This corresponds to a vertical velocity of 1.7 cm/sec for the neutrons in Earth’s gravity field.

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If graviton flux is continuous how then the discrete nature of the movement under gravity infuence is justified?

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21 years 10 months ago #5378 by tvanflandern
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=2 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>If graviton flux is continuous how then the discrete nature of the movement under gravity infuence is justified?<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

Graviton flux is continuous, omni-directional (as Larry said), and way too tiny to be detected. I was suggesting the experiment showed discrete elyson interactions, not gravitational ones.

As an analogy, this would be like doing experiments in air, and finally devising one so sensitive that the influence of individual air molecules could be seen.

Elysons, to use a more familiar term, might be thought of as the constituents of "aether". -|Tom|-

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