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21 years 9 months ago #2883
by Jeremy
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Current, real time, reality takes place in the past meaning that what we experience is something that has already happened. When I "see" something happen, it has already happened and I am simply observing it "AFTER" the event.
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Real time reality is what is occuring in the universe NOW irrespective of what we are perceiving. What we perceive is indeed something that happened maybe a half second ago.
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If the above were to hold true then we live in the portion of time that has already occured.
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Nope. We live in the NOW, we perceive the past.
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If that portion of time has already occured and no "backward" time travel is possible then how could it ever be possible to get out of the past time and into future/forward time?
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Well, you could get up to relatvistic speed and slow your relative time. By time travel to the future do you mean a discontinous jump to a future date without passing through the intermediate moments or an acceleration in the rate of passage?
Current, real time, reality takes place in the past meaning that what we experience is something that has already happened. When I "see" something happen, it has already happened and I am simply observing it "AFTER" the event.
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Real time reality is what is occuring in the universe NOW irrespective of what we are perceiving. What we perceive is indeed something that happened maybe a half second ago.
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If the above were to hold true then we live in the portion of time that has already occured.
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Nope. We live in the NOW, we perceive the past.
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If that portion of time has already occured and no "backward" time travel is possible then how could it ever be possible to get out of the past time and into future/forward time?
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Well, you could get up to relatvistic speed and slow your relative time. By time travel to the future do you mean a discontinous jump to a future date without passing through the intermediate moments or an acceleration in the rate of passage?
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21 years 9 months ago #4793
by rbibb
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Isn't this a bit Nieve? What about the sun hitting your face? (8 minutes old) What about the pictures you see from hubble?(Billions of years old)
Everything you see and experience is from the past. By the time you experience it, it has already happened. How could you move OUT of what has already happened if you can't travel BACK in time?
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Isn't this a bit Nieve? What about the sun hitting your face? (8 minutes old) What about the pictures you see from hubble?(Billions of years old)
Everything you see and experience is from the past. By the time you experience it, it has already happened. How could you move OUT of what has already happened if you can't travel BACK in time?
Just learning!
Magoo
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21 years 9 months ago #4796
by Jeremy
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Isn't this a bit Nieve? What about the sun hitting your face? (8 minutes old) What about the pictures you see from hubble?(Billions of years old)
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What I meant was that our perception is delayed but that does not mean that our constituent atoms are not responding in real time. Yes the Sun we see is 8 minutes old but that does not mean it couldn't have gone nova NOW whether we have seen it or not.
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Everything you see and experience is from the past. By the time you experience it, it has already happened. How could you move OUT of what has already happened if you can't travel BACK in time?
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We are not moving out of what has already happened. Our atoms are existing and responding NOW, it is only perception that is delayed. I don't see where backward movement of time is necessary for forward movement. We are moving forward constantly and I haven't found it necessary to go backwards to do so. Again I don't understand what manner of forward movement of time you are trying to achieve.
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Isn't this a bit Nieve? What about the sun hitting your face? (8 minutes old) What about the pictures you see from hubble?(Billions of years old)
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What I meant was that our perception is delayed but that does not mean that our constituent atoms are not responding in real time. Yes the Sun we see is 8 minutes old but that does not mean it couldn't have gone nova NOW whether we have seen it or not.
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Everything you see and experience is from the past. By the time you experience it, it has already happened. How could you move OUT of what has already happened if you can't travel BACK in time?
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We are not moving out of what has already happened. Our atoms are existing and responding NOW, it is only perception that is delayed. I don't see where backward movement of time is necessary for forward movement. We are moving forward constantly and I haven't found it necessary to go backwards to do so. Again I don't understand what manner of forward movement of time you are trying to achieve.
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21 years 9 months ago #4971
by rush
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Since time is not a dimension like the 3 dimensions of space, you can neither go back nor forward in time. It is and it will always be science-fiction based upon an extrapolation of the mathematical concept of warpages in spacetime into reality.
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21 years 9 months ago #4807
by rush
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Relativity says there is "No Backward Time Travel" but forward time travel may be possible.
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General relativity says there is no movement at all. Things happen all-at-once in spacetime.<img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle> That's why it is just a mathematical model that has no physical meaning.
Relativity says there is "No Backward Time Travel" but forward time travel may be possible.
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General relativity says there is no movement at all. Things happen all-at-once in spacetime.<img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle> That's why it is just a mathematical model that has no physical meaning.
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21 years 9 months ago #4979
by MarkVitrone
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Back to the sun analogy. Yes we see 8 min light delay, but the grav pull of the sun is accelerating your body at its actual position. I think your body would have a difficult time of it if that abruptly changed.
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