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22 years 1 month ago #3569
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Jim, the ideal gas law is fine and dandy. It does a good job of predicting large scale gas effects used in daily normal chemistry.
The Problems:
At extremely small volumes, in zero-G, in other words at the
extremes, there are deviations that are mathematically adjusted by swidgets. The nature of especially van der Waals forces, and other intermolecular data that does not fit into the gas model like planned. The result (especially in the real gas law) is a model that has zones that are undefined in normal T/P/V/MW ranges. So if I want to know ~ how much He is in a balloon sitting in my freezer in 1 atm of pressure, I really don't know do I. Furthermore if the gravitation forces applied on the matter in the gas acts to mask just a fraction of the mass, then I am not sure how many actual gas particles I have.
The Fix:
Understanding of how gases interact at the atomic level with the LCM and gravitons will allow for a new better gas law that helps remove equation additions to ideal laws that do not fully consider ALL of the variable affecting the defined system.
Phew, feel like im in P-Cchem again. My prof hated me I know why.
The Problems:
At extremely small volumes, in zero-G, in other words at the
extremes, there are deviations that are mathematically adjusted by swidgets. The nature of especially van der Waals forces, and other intermolecular data that does not fit into the gas model like planned. The result (especially in the real gas law) is a model that has zones that are undefined in normal T/P/V/MW ranges. So if I want to know ~ how much He is in a balloon sitting in my freezer in 1 atm of pressure, I really don't know do I. Furthermore if the gravitation forces applied on the matter in the gas acts to mask just a fraction of the mass, then I am not sure how many actual gas particles I have.
The Fix:
Understanding of how gases interact at the atomic level with the LCM and gravitons will allow for a new better gas law that helps remove equation additions to ideal laws that do not fully consider ALL of the variable affecting the defined system.
Phew, feel like im in P-Cchem again. My prof hated me I know why.
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22 years 1 month ago #3471
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You say your body may be a universe and each cell just like an individual galaxy.
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One may think "what a wierd idea!" Who knows if it can ever be validiated. But if you want a published scholastic study on this, look at www.fractalcosmology.com .
The interrelation of scales is 1:10^15, equating the galaxy not to the human cell, but to the atom. Galaxy supercluseters are scaled at 1/1:10^15 to molecules. A living cell is scaled at 1/1:10:15 to the observable universe.
Interrestingly, elastic interactions of gravitons with matter are estimated at 1/10^15; and this hints at a first-time obervability of an interaction of scales as proposed by MM.
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You say your body may be a universe and each cell just like an individual galaxy.
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One may think "what a wierd idea!" Who knows if it can ever be validiated. But if you want a published scholastic study on this, look at www.fractalcosmology.com .
The interrelation of scales is 1:10^15, equating the galaxy not to the human cell, but to the atom. Galaxy supercluseters are scaled at 1/1:10^15 to molecules. A living cell is scaled at 1/1:10:15 to the observable universe.
Interrestingly, elastic interactions of gravitons with matter are estimated at 1/10^15; and this hints at a first-time obervability of an interaction of scales as proposed by MM.
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22 years 1 month ago #3697
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jimiproton thanx I will check it out.
on the point of scale interaction, I think zero-point energy is another example. Do you want to discuss?MV
on the point of scale interaction, I think zero-point energy is another example. Do you want to discuss?MV
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22 years 1 month ago #3506
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In the matter of the ideal gas law-this is a very practical model of an "ideal" gas and not a real gas. This is a given and therefore it is silly don't you think to attempt to do more than what is practical whit it?
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22 years 1 month ago #3512
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I understand an ideal gas as one in which all collisions between atoms or molecules are perfectly elastic and in which there are no intermolecular attractive forces.
This presumes that there is no disharmony between the units of interraction. In my anthropomorphic view, as regards the Universe, the only disharmonious elements may come from myself.
May I presume, therefore, that our observations do not alter the external Universe, as may happen with our observations of the internal-Universe (that which remains in the dominion of our own subjective influence, from particle-accellerators to weather forecasting).
Then, it might be reasonable to consider the Universe as a whole as behaving like an ideal gas. This is congruenous with a fractal view of all things.
This presumes that there is no disharmony between the units of interraction. In my anthropomorphic view, as regards the Universe, the only disharmonious elements may come from myself.
May I presume, therefore, that our observations do not alter the external Universe, as may happen with our observations of the internal-Universe (that which remains in the dominion of our own subjective influence, from particle-accellerators to weather forecasting).
Then, it might be reasonable to consider the Universe as a whole as behaving like an ideal gas. This is congruenous with a fractal view of all things.
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22 years 1 month ago #3517
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If you model the universe as an ideal gas what do you do about gravity since it is not covered in gas laws?
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