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16 years 8 months ago #18258 by tvanflandern
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by buryl</i>
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I am also looking into electron spin.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Our subject matter is limited to astronomy, except as other subjects may overlap with astronomy interests. You mentioned no such connection.

Also, you are taking "spin" far too literally. "Spin" is a property of electrons that appears related to their angular momentum in an unknown way. Much like other quantum properties such as "up/down" or "color", these are just names. We have no means to tell if electrons really spin. But if they do, it is extremely unlikely that such spin would be limited to certain discrete spin rates in the way that the spin property is limited. -|Tom|-

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16 years 8 months ago #15112 by buryl
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Yes, spin around electrons is only an empty name, still people describe the magnet field direction around a current carrying wire as a force which induces free moving electrons to spiral around the wire. Stars, Planets, and asteroids spin. Galaxies spin. Some interstellar molecules spin. To have an apparatus that measures a rotational force around living organisms is an important discovery. It's not in the EMF spectrum yet it is related to magnetism.
Currently there are many questions. More experiments are desirable. Definitely metaphysics for the budding scientist.

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16 years 6 months ago #20091 by socratus
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by buryl</i>
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I am also looking into electron spin. I want to find out how much energy it takes to change the spin of an electron. If anyone knows off hand, please reply to this message.

I want to run an experiment to measure the power of thought.
First I want to find out if a single electron spin can be changed by a person thinking about it in various ways.
If this is possible, then thought can be measured per electron spin.
Much help is needed in research, so volunteers are welcome.
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Forces of Nature : THE SPIN.

In 1687, the book "Mathematical beginnings of natural philosophy"
by Isaac Newton was printed out. This book has become the fundamental
scientific textbook. In the foreword to this book, Newton has written:
"All the difficulty of physics, as it will be seen, is in recognizing
forces of the nature by the phenomena of motion,
and then to explain other phenomena according to these forces".
"The First Newton's law" breaks on the spot
this well formulated logical thought.
It states:
"Any body, until it remains insulated,
saves its state of rest or rectilinear motion".
This law of motion is considered fundamental in classic physics.
However, it permanently causes critics of initial positions of mechanics.
Because in earthly conditions it is defaulted.
This law does not take into consideration influence of external forces
; it also says nothing about internal forces. The reason on which the body
is moving or rests is not clear. This law is abstract.
Newton perceived illusiveness of this law. His scientific slogan was:
"I do not invent hypotheses".
He said: "I shall not mix conjectures with reliability".
He aimed to build a building of science without hypotheses.
Therefore, he wanted to correct somehow, to change his formulation.
But all attempts were unsuccessful.
However, this law is useful and necessary to explain then accelerated motion.
For this reason, this postulate of Newton
was forced and wrongfully erected to a rank of the law.
And from a school bench the person learns this postulate
as the law (unproved supposition). Here we have the paradoxical situation.
The Bible begins with the unfounded statement
"In the Beginning there was a Word ",
and classic physics begins with the unfounded statement
" In the Beginning there was the First Newton's law ".
The science states that the origin of the World according
to the religious version is not reliable, and builds the scientific
foundations based on abstraction. As a result, both formulations
(religious and scientific) are unsatisfactory from the point of view of logic.
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Newtons dream was realized by Planck.
let us analyze the discovery of quantum of light by Planck.
M. Planck in 1900 offered to examine the radiation emanating from
absolutely black body (Vacuum radiation of Kirchhoff /Max Laue / ),
as separate portions (quantum).
If the quantum of light will penetrate inside this absolute black body
and will not reflect back, the radiation and heat will die.
That it will not happen, the ideal black body should reflect
(radiate) this quantum of light back. Then and only then,
this initial (natural) radiation of quantum of light is characterized
by the constant of Planck -h .
The quantity of this particle, s impulse is h=1.
Under influence of this impulse the particle moves with speed c=1.
The particle has the form of a circle.
This quantity is described with a formula (h=Et) and has a title of
the least quantum of action, internal impulse of particle, spin.
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Einstein realized Newtons dream in another way
For the basic point of his argumentations, Einstein
took the constant of Boltzmann R/N = k
and coefficient (b) from the formula of radiation of Wien.
The multiplication of these two quantities gives the formula
of internal impulse of particle, spin h = kb.
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Quantum of light is a privileged particle.
Only the speed of a light quantum in Vacuum has
a maximal, constant, absolute quantity of c=1.
No other particle can travel with the speed c = 1.
If quantum of light flies always rectilinearly c=1, it is a mad one.
Is he really mad?
No.
Goudsmit-Uhlenbeck also realized Newtons dream.
Another impulse (spin) in 1925 was found by
Goudsmit-Uhlenbeck .
They came to a conclusion, that the particle should have other impulse.
Quantity of this impulse is described with a formula : h = h/2pi,
forcing a particle to rotate around his diameter.
This means that it particle does not move rectilinearly,
but rotates around the diameter (has the form of a sphere).
The rotation of these particle creates electrical waves.
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So, when Newton wrote many years ago:
"All the difficulty of physics, as it will be seen, is in recognizing
forces of the nature by the phenomena of motion,
and then to explain other phenomena according to these forces",
Planck, Einstein, Goudsmit and Uhlenbeck realized his desire .
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Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik .
Socratus




The secret of words 'God', 'soul ', 'religion', Existence,
'dualism of consciousness', 'human being' is hidden
in the Theory of Light quanta.

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16 years 6 months ago #20820 by tvanflandern
Socratus: Please do not include links to private web sites in your postings. They have been removed from your previous posts. Thank you for considering the local rules. -|Tom|-

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16 years 6 months ago #20310 by jrich
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Tom, it might be more effective to delete the posts and disable the accounts without comment. These people post on message boards all over the internet to generate traffic to their invariably nutty sites. Even without the links I still wasted several minutes reading this stuff and you wasted some of your even more valuable time.

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