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A simple lightspeed experiment by single GPS horiz
17 years 1 month ago #19793
by Leo Vuyk
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Sorry as a corection:
1: 30 km should be 3 km ( as you suggsted.
2: prof. Langley's experiments did not focus on radio occultations between two satellites partly through the Earth athmosphere of course, so only few measurements showed outliers (residuals) of 5 meters.
1: 30 km should be 3 km ( as you suggsted.
2: prof. Langley's experiments did not focus on radio occultations between two satellites partly through the Earth athmosphere of course, so only few measurements showed outliers (residuals) of 5 meters.
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17 years 1 month ago #18171
by Leo Vuyk
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Well eeehh, as a second thought, you are right indeed.3km!!
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17 years 1 month ago #18172
by Leo Vuyk
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so.... we have a problem to solve.
If my suggestion for the lightspeed extinction volume around the Earth see figure B. at:
bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/2006/0...dent-lightspeed.html
is not so tight as I suggested , then the problem is solved.
However, I think that a mountain summit ( as I suggested) will be too low to get enough data.
A baloon perhaps?
Leo.
If my suggestion for the lightspeed extinction volume around the Earth see figure B. at:
bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/2006/0...dent-lightspeed.html
is not so tight as I suggested , then the problem is solved.
However, I think that a mountain summit ( as I suggested) will be too low to get enough data.
A baloon perhaps?
Leo.
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17 years 1 month ago #18274
by tvanflandern
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Leo Vuyk</i>
<br />my suggestion for the lightspeed extinction volume around the Earth<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">GPS satellite-to-satellite-signaling data shows the same "vacuum" speed of light as the laboratory value to within a few meters per second. These signals are always far from Earth's surface. Doesn't that rule out your suggestion without need to concern ourselves with small atmospheric effects? -|Tom|-
<br />my suggestion for the lightspeed extinction volume around the Earth<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">GPS satellite-to-satellite-signaling data shows the same "vacuum" speed of light as the laboratory value to within a few meters per second. These signals are always far from Earth's surface. Doesn't that rule out your suggestion without need to concern ourselves with small atmospheric effects? -|Tom|-
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17 years 1 month ago #18176
by Leo Vuyk
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What I did notice after studying the articles about POD (precise orbit detemination) of LEO satellites, is that there are problems to get good and enough radio occulations between LEOs and GPSs.
( esp. FORMOSAT-3)
Radio occulations are always "skimming" the Earth, which makes them in my view vulnerable for the effects which I am pointing at.
I am away from my computer for a week , so I must exuus myself for a while.
( esp. FORMOSAT-3)
Radio occulations are always "skimming" the Earth, which makes them in my view vulnerable for the effects which I am pointing at.
I am away from my computer for a week , so I must exuus myself for a while.
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17 years 3 weeks ago #15085
by Leo Vuyk
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If My proposal for the Planetary (Earth) gravitational drag of the Lightspeed has a realistic base, as mentioned before, then all GPS signal readings taken by other satellites should account for such an effect.
Improvement of onboard GPS readings for precise orbit determination (POD) of Low Earth Orbiting (LEO) Satellites, like Formoasat-3, Camp, or Jason-1-/Topex-Poseidon satellites and ISS, are suggested to be possible, if these readings are taken into directions without any Earth-Solar orbital lightspeed influence.
A: for signals not directed into the Earth surface: Above 21 degrees above the horizontal-Earth line for Formosat-3 and Champ (both at about the same height) and Above 34 degrees for Jason-Topex satellites (cruising at higher levels) see figure B3.
OR;
B: if the orbital speed has no influence; GPS-readings taken perpendicular to the axis of orbital motion of the Earth round the Sun.
Outside these areas, the “Earth gravitational drag effect” should be incorporated into the GPS-reading calculations. This should be the case e.g. for so called LEO “GPS-occultations” skimming the Earth atmosphere.
Leo Vuyk.
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Improvement of onboard GPS readings for precise orbit determination (POD) of Low Earth Orbiting (LEO) Satellites, like Formoasat-3, Camp, or Jason-1-/Topex-Poseidon satellites and ISS, are suggested to be possible, if these readings are taken into directions without any Earth-Solar orbital lightspeed influence.
A: for signals not directed into the Earth surface: Above 21 degrees above the horizontal-Earth line for Formosat-3 and Champ (both at about the same height) and Above 34 degrees for Jason-Topex satellites (cruising at higher levels) see figure B3.
OR;
B: if the orbital speed has no influence; GPS-readings taken perpendicular to the axis of orbital motion of the Earth round the Sun.
Outside these areas, the “Earth gravitational drag effect” should be incorporated into the GPS-reading calculations. This should be the case e.g. for so called LEO “GPS-occultations” skimming the Earth atmosphere.
Leo Vuyk.
I tried to put an image here ....
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