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18 years 11 months ago #13019
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by cosmicsurfer</i>
<br />that does not mean that this moment is not just an intersection between two succinct time domains.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">I define "time" as a measure of change. Please provide a careful definition of your term "time domain" that makes physical sense. I really have no idea what you might mean by this physically, even though there obviously can be any number of time variables mathematically.
And without a concept behind those words, the rest simply fails to communicate. -|Tom|-
<br />that does not mean that this moment is not just an intersection between two succinct time domains.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">I define "time" as a measure of change. Please provide a careful definition of your term "time domain" that makes physical sense. I really have no idea what you might mean by this physically, even though there obviously can be any number of time variables mathematically.
And without a concept behind those words, the rest simply fails to communicate. -|Tom|-
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18 years 11 months ago #13000
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Hi, Mr Flandern
How do you define the density of the LCM?
Because the wavelength can be very short, the density of the LCM could be very big.
Reversed time is a useful concept in QED to describe the relation between particle and antiparticle. When the gravitational potential approaches –c^2/2, the light speed approaches zero, and time also seems to be slowed down by the gravitational field. But I don’t think that time can be stopped, and I don’t think the gravitational potential cannot be lower than –c^2/2. Once the gravitational potential passes this critical point, time should move faster, as does the speed of light. If we don’t allow time to be reversed inside a black hole, then the only way out is to allow a phase transition from particle to antiparticle when the gravitational potential goes lower than –c^2/2 inside a black hole.
The symmetry between particle and antiparticle becomes perfect if we can prove by experiment that antiparticle will be subjected to an anti-gravitational repulsive force in a negative gravitational potential field.
How do you define the density of the LCM?
Because the wavelength can be very short, the density of the LCM could be very big.
Reversed time is a useful concept in QED to describe the relation between particle and antiparticle. When the gravitational potential approaches –c^2/2, the light speed approaches zero, and time also seems to be slowed down by the gravitational field. But I don’t think that time can be stopped, and I don’t think the gravitational potential cannot be lower than –c^2/2. Once the gravitational potential passes this critical point, time should move faster, as does the speed of light. If we don’t allow time to be reversed inside a black hole, then the only way out is to allow a phase transition from particle to antiparticle when the gravitational potential goes lower than –c^2/2 inside a black hole.
The symmetry between particle and antiparticle becomes perfect if we can prove by experiment that antiparticle will be subjected to an anti-gravitational repulsive force in a negative gravitational potential field.
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18 years 11 months ago #13020
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by guoliang liu</i>
<br />How do you define the density of the LCM?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">The definition of density is the classical one. But I suspect you meant "determine" rather than "define". We have no way to measure elysium density because elysium has not even been discovered yet. But a technical research paper by Klyushin suggests that the average elysium density everywhere is so large that ordinary matter is just a minor increase in the local density.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Because the wavelength can be very short, the density of the LCM could be very big.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">I agree.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Reversed time is a useful concept in QED to describe the relation between particle and antiparticle.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">But in MM, time is simply a measure of chamge. It cannot be curbed or dilated or slowed or manipulated in any way.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">When the gravitational potential approaches –c^2/2, the light speed approaches zero, and time also seems to be slowed down by the gravitational field.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Only clocks and processes are slowed. Time itself is a dimension (a non-tangible concept constructed for the purpose of measurement), and it is not normally useful to allow dimensions to be altered by real tangible entities.
Light is a wave phenomenon, not a particle one. So "escape velocity" is irrelevant because it applies only to particles. But as medium density increases, wave oscillations become more and more difficult. Eventually, as potential approaches the critical value, wave oscillation becomes impossible, so light ceases to be emitted. However, there is no "event horizon" with the roles of space and time interchanged.
The rest of your post presumed that event horizons exist, so it made no sense in a MM context. -|Tom|-
<br />How do you define the density of the LCM?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">The definition of density is the classical one. But I suspect you meant "determine" rather than "define". We have no way to measure elysium density because elysium has not even been discovered yet. But a technical research paper by Klyushin suggests that the average elysium density everywhere is so large that ordinary matter is just a minor increase in the local density.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Because the wavelength can be very short, the density of the LCM could be very big.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">I agree.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Reversed time is a useful concept in QED to describe the relation between particle and antiparticle.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">But in MM, time is simply a measure of chamge. It cannot be curbed or dilated or slowed or manipulated in any way.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">When the gravitational potential approaches –c^2/2, the light speed approaches zero, and time also seems to be slowed down by the gravitational field.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Only clocks and processes are slowed. Time itself is a dimension (a non-tangible concept constructed for the purpose of measurement), and it is not normally useful to allow dimensions to be altered by real tangible entities.
Light is a wave phenomenon, not a particle one. So "escape velocity" is irrelevant because it applies only to particles. But as medium density increases, wave oscillations become more and more difficult. Eventually, as potential approaches the critical value, wave oscillation becomes impossible, so light ceases to be emitted. However, there is no "event horizon" with the roles of space and time interchanged.
The rest of your post presumed that event horizons exist, so it made no sense in a MM context. -|Tom|-
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18 years 11 months ago #13001
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Tom, do you think the limiting density of the LCM could be equivalent to Planck density?
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18 years 11 months ago #13022
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by nemesis</i>
<br />Tom, do you think the limiting density of the LCM could be equivalent to Planck density?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">No one yet knows the physical significance of the Planck units. But the numerical estimates available to us in Skabinski's chapter of <i>Pushing Gravity</i> suggest to me that the Planck density is way too high for elysium. It seems more likely to be associated with matter ingredients or gravitons. -|Tom|-
<br />Tom, do you think the limiting density of the LCM could be equivalent to Planck density?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">No one yet knows the physical significance of the Planck units. But the numerical estimates available to us in Skabinski's chapter of <i>Pushing Gravity</i> suggest to me that the Planck density is way too high for elysium. It seems more likely to be associated with matter ingredients or gravitons. -|Tom|-
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18 years 11 months ago #13002
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Hi Tom,
The graviton flux around a collapsed star would increase in speed of motion around the eye wall of the "galactic storm" causing extreme atmospheric conditions of "elysium" to exist limiting the light wave emmissions to the curvature of the flux flow. Thus light, which is the result of graviton bombardment at nucleonic levels would still be emmited but limited to the curvature of the eye wall and would circulate with the flux field around the center of the galactic plane.
Time, as you stated is a condition of relative motion within any given reference frame. In this case at the center of the imploded star and circulations of atmospheric elysium, time parity is keyed to the general motion which would appear static to an observor that flowed with general motion, because everything would be moving close to the speed of light around the eye wall. At the speed of light, time now in comparison to our relative motion on earth would appear to move past our time line and into the future. Because our frame of reference operates at the speed of rotation within our gravity well here on earth, "Time" would pass faster as you went down the dimensional scale of spectrums of motion; and, making our relativity of time a paradox as compared to our frame of reference that "faster then light" motion appeared to be going into the future. When in fact, earth itself because of the electromagnetic island that appeared static in motion was actually travelling at a faster time rate even though immersed in a high motion flux field of positive and negative graviton flux fields (I will address this notion of charged flux later). The slower the motion the faster the passing of time within any given reference frame as compared to other variable speed reference frames.
So, at the central vortex within our galactic plane time begins to approach the zero point because of the dimensional merging of light speed, graviton speed, and other exotic unknown micro energetics that operate at superluminal speeds on macro dimensional levels. Now, why does matter dominate antimatter in forward time? In our infinite universe, it would be impossible for matter to even exist without CPT super symmetries. The reason that antimatter exists at all is because of this reverse time wave that is the mirror antitime motion that creates the general graviton flux waves at 20 billion times the speed of light.
Here is my definition of a dual time Universe:
All motion in our universe is created by the opposing forces of motion of forward and reverse time, and without this reverse motion there could not be any motion at all. This struggle always seeks a balanced state and results in the condensation of atomic vortex, all forces, and circulations around centers. Without a mirror universe in reverse motion where antimatter is the dominate circulation in opposition to matter, our nature as seen at all levels would not exist. Nothing could exist at all without this matrix of motion as the supporting background from which all things are created. Time is generated by motion and this general motion is created by two opposing spectrums of dimensional motions that are in juxtaposition to each other.
The flux from the opposing motion of antiuniverse and universe creates graviton (antigravitons), and other higher circulation states of energetics as background matrix supporting materialization of higher and lower spectrum dimensional mass. The levels of motion are infinite in speed and range, and may be represented in ever (multiple graviton speeds)finer energetics within nucleonic centers that are universal wide in extreme almost instantaneous motion as compared to our frame of reference.
The HERA collider experiments have shown that the proton exhibits equally an "unlimited supply" of gluon strings that break upon impact forming a quark and antiquark attached that fly off in opposing directions. The antimatter dissappears first because of the reverse time wave. Forward time matter is a construct of these interactions that are a phase conjugated mirror that regenerates the atomic waves at superluminal speeds. Again, without the incoming and outgoing waveforms maintaining matter in motion, nothing could exist in the universe. Energetics are exchanged at all levels, e.g., light, gravitons, unknown exotics, and form the two way dynamics that are the underlying foundation blocks supporting all mass in universe.
John
The graviton flux around a collapsed star would increase in speed of motion around the eye wall of the "galactic storm" causing extreme atmospheric conditions of "elysium" to exist limiting the light wave emmissions to the curvature of the flux flow. Thus light, which is the result of graviton bombardment at nucleonic levels would still be emmited but limited to the curvature of the eye wall and would circulate with the flux field around the center of the galactic plane.
Time, as you stated is a condition of relative motion within any given reference frame. In this case at the center of the imploded star and circulations of atmospheric elysium, time parity is keyed to the general motion which would appear static to an observor that flowed with general motion, because everything would be moving close to the speed of light around the eye wall. At the speed of light, time now in comparison to our relative motion on earth would appear to move past our time line and into the future. Because our frame of reference operates at the speed of rotation within our gravity well here on earth, "Time" would pass faster as you went down the dimensional scale of spectrums of motion; and, making our relativity of time a paradox as compared to our frame of reference that "faster then light" motion appeared to be going into the future. When in fact, earth itself because of the electromagnetic island that appeared static in motion was actually travelling at a faster time rate even though immersed in a high motion flux field of positive and negative graviton flux fields (I will address this notion of charged flux later). The slower the motion the faster the passing of time within any given reference frame as compared to other variable speed reference frames.
So, at the central vortex within our galactic plane time begins to approach the zero point because of the dimensional merging of light speed, graviton speed, and other exotic unknown micro energetics that operate at superluminal speeds on macro dimensional levels. Now, why does matter dominate antimatter in forward time? In our infinite universe, it would be impossible for matter to even exist without CPT super symmetries. The reason that antimatter exists at all is because of this reverse time wave that is the mirror antitime motion that creates the general graviton flux waves at 20 billion times the speed of light.
Here is my definition of a dual time Universe:
All motion in our universe is created by the opposing forces of motion of forward and reverse time, and without this reverse motion there could not be any motion at all. This struggle always seeks a balanced state and results in the condensation of atomic vortex, all forces, and circulations around centers. Without a mirror universe in reverse motion where antimatter is the dominate circulation in opposition to matter, our nature as seen at all levels would not exist. Nothing could exist at all without this matrix of motion as the supporting background from which all things are created. Time is generated by motion and this general motion is created by two opposing spectrums of dimensional motions that are in juxtaposition to each other.
The flux from the opposing motion of antiuniverse and universe creates graviton (antigravitons), and other higher circulation states of energetics as background matrix supporting materialization of higher and lower spectrum dimensional mass. The levels of motion are infinite in speed and range, and may be represented in ever (multiple graviton speeds)finer energetics within nucleonic centers that are universal wide in extreme almost instantaneous motion as compared to our frame of reference.
The HERA collider experiments have shown that the proton exhibits equally an "unlimited supply" of gluon strings that break upon impact forming a quark and antiquark attached that fly off in opposing directions. The antimatter dissappears first because of the reverse time wave. Forward time matter is a construct of these interactions that are a phase conjugated mirror that regenerates the atomic waves at superluminal speeds. Again, without the incoming and outgoing waveforms maintaining matter in motion, nothing could exist in the universe. Energetics are exchanged at all levels, e.g., light, gravitons, unknown exotics, and form the two way dynamics that are the underlying foundation blocks supporting all mass in universe.
John
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