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20 years 10 hours ago #11951
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by brantc</i>
<br />an object can move by pulling momentum out of empty space.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Creation of something from nothing is a form of miracle and violates logic. Miracles are forbidden as explanations in physics. In this case, "pulling momentum out of empty space" is on a par with "pushed by the hand of God".
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">So what causes rotation? Not gravity.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">When any two particles collide and stick, most such collisions are off-center. That means the relative motion of the two separate particles pushes one side of esch target body more than the other. That converts linear momentum into angular momentum.
This is a well-understood process, and is not considered a mystery in conventional physics. -|Tom|-
<br />an object can move by pulling momentum out of empty space.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Creation of something from nothing is a form of miracle and violates logic. Miracles are forbidden as explanations in physics. In this case, "pulling momentum out of empty space" is on a par with "pushed by the hand of God".
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">So what causes rotation? Not gravity.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">When any two particles collide and stick, most such collisions are off-center. That means the relative motion of the two separate particles pushes one side of esch target body more than the other. That converts linear momentum into angular momentum.
This is a well-understood process, and is not considered a mystery in conventional physics. -|Tom|-
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19 years 11 months ago #11952
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">That converts linear momentum into angular momentum.
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Yeah ... I know what you mean. But the statement as given is false. No such conversion is possible. What was there, still is. It just looks different. Nothing ever changes in this area.
Merry Christmas Tom ;o)
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Yeah ... I know what you mean. But the statement as given is false. No such conversion is possible. What was there, still is. It just looks different. Nothing ever changes in this area.
Merry Christmas Tom ;o)
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19 years 11 months ago #11953
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by EBTX</i>
<br />Yeah ... I know what you mean. But the statement as given is false. No such conversion is possible. What was there, still is. It just looks different. Nothing ever changes in this area.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">But I have no idea what <i>you</i> mean. Can you make a statement clear enough to be understood by others? There are six simple, declarative sentences in your quoted paragraph. The last five of them offer no explanation or justification. In science, claims must be backed by observation, experiment, reasoning, and/or citation. Opinions that cannot be backed in one of those ways must be abandoned, or we are no longer talking about science. -|Tom|-
<br />Yeah ... I know what you mean. But the statement as given is false. No such conversion is possible. What was there, still is. It just looks different. Nothing ever changes in this area.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">But I have no idea what <i>you</i> mean. Can you make a statement clear enough to be understood by others? There are six simple, declarative sentences in your quoted paragraph. The last five of them offer no explanation or justification. In science, claims must be backed by observation, experiment, reasoning, and/or citation. Opinions that cannot be backed in one of those ways must be abandoned, or we are no longer talking about science. -|Tom|-
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19 years 11 months ago #11954
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however if atomicly both the neucleus and the electron are moving about a center. what is at the center? empty space concept is not an answer, however i think that plasmas are involved here, which then involves electric currents which leads to electromagnetism.
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however if atomicly both the neucleus and the electron are moving about a center. what is at the center? empty space concept is not an answer, however i think that plasmas are involved here, which then involves electric currents which leads to electromagnetism.
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19 years 11 months ago #11011
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by brantc</i>
<br />I'm sure this question has been addressed before, but there this
theory "German mathematician Hermann Minkowski's work on electromagnetic fields in materials, combined with quantum mechanics, leads to a prediction that an object can move by pulling momentum out of empty space."
focus.aps.org/story/v13/st3
So what causes rotation? Not gravity.
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This is a unique find. What he has found is not something from nothing but being able to couple to the Continuum. That is Space / Time itself. This is the first steps to real hands on warp drive technology. I have more data to back this claim up but what you are seeing here is very important. It just has not been connected with Relativity yet.
Warren York
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<br />I'm sure this question has been addressed before, but there this
theory "German mathematician Hermann Minkowski's work on electromagnetic fields in materials, combined with quantum mechanics, leads to a prediction that an object can move by pulling momentum out of empty space."
focus.aps.org/story/v13/st3
So what causes rotation? Not gravity.
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This is a unique find. What he has found is not something from nothing but being able to couple to the Continuum. That is Space / Time itself. This is the first steps to real hands on warp drive technology. I have more data to back this claim up but what you are seeing here is very important. It just has not been connected with Relativity yet.
Warren York
pubmaster@charter.net
The only option if man is going to reach the Stars in a lifetime is to master both Space and Time. Warp Technology today!
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19 years 11 months ago #11012
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by north</i>
<br />however if atomicly both the nucleus and the electron are moving about a center. what is at the center?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Because the electron mass is 1000 times less than the proton mass, the "center of mass" of an atom is always well-inside the nucleus and near the geometric center. But what does it matter whether there is anything there or not? If a central proton was hollow inside, nothing about the physics would be changed. -|Tom|-
<br />however if atomicly both the nucleus and the electron are moving about a center. what is at the center?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Because the electron mass is 1000 times less than the proton mass, the "center of mass" of an atom is always well-inside the nucleus and near the geometric center. But what does it matter whether there is anything there or not? If a central proton was hollow inside, nothing about the physics would be changed. -|Tom|-
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