effect of gravity on LCM

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Halfabee</i>
<br />would we be able to detect a "crushing" of the waveform in the direction of medium density increase (toward the planet) and a "stretching" of the waveform in the opposite direction?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Yes, that is called "refraction". and produces the phenomenon known as "light-bending". The lightwave path bends towards the direction of increased density because the wave propagates more slowly in denser elysium. -|Tom|-

Tom,

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by tvanflandern</i>
Yes, that is called "refraction". and produces the phenomenon known as "light-bending". The lightwave path bends towards the direction of increased density because the wave propagates more slowly in denser elysium. -|Tom|-
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I've always believed that refraction described a shift in the waveform in the direction of propogation. In my above example, I was referring to a crushing of the amplitude of the waveform, not a change in the direction of propogation. Is that still referred to as refraction?

Eric

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Halfabee</i>
<br />I was referring to a crushing of the amplitude of the waveform, not a change in the direction of propogation. Is that still referred to as refraction?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Eric,

No, that is not refraction. Amplitude is related to wave intensity. Wave properties can be affected only by the medium they propagate through. So a force such as gravity does not do anything directly to a wave. But is does make the light-carrying medium denser. And a denser medium has a slower propagation speed and longer wavelength. Wave amplitude probably decreases also, but not because of "crushing". Rather, the amplitude should decrease because the resistance to wave vibration would be greater in a denser medium than in a sparse one.

However, it is not clear if this is more than a semantic distinction. -|Tom|-

Tom,

I'm afraid that I've been unsuceesful in properly phrazing my question...



<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by tvanflandern</i>
Eric,

...Wave amplitude probably decreases also, but not because of "crushing". Rather, the amplitude should decrease because the resistance to wave vibration would be greater in a denser medium than in a sparse one.

However, it is not clear if this is more than a semantic distinction. -|Tom|-
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My original question was: is this deformation of the waveform due to its passage through a medium of non-uniform density observed and whether relativity would predict it? (my contention is that the meta model does predict it...)

Eric

Eric

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Halfabee</i>
<br />is this deformation of the waveform due to its passage through a medium of non-uniform density observed and whether relativity would predict it? (my contention is that the meta model does predict it...)<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Eric,

Amplitudes for light and radio waves are so tiny that there is no possibility to observing a "deformation" of the type you mentioned, wherein the waves would have a greater amplitude in one direction than in another. The density of the light-carrying medium ("elysium") changes only very slightly near masses. For example, the change is by one part in 100 million for the density of elysium at Earth's distance from the Sun. Imagine how insignificant the density change would be in just a micron when it is that small over hundreds of millions of kilometers.

That said, technically, I think it would be a difference between relativity and MM. But it is not an observable one for the foreseeable future. -|Tom|-