The entropy of systems

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19 years 10 months ago #11726 by north
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by GD</i>
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<br />Just to be clear here you are suggesting entrophy is slowing down the solar system and the atom-right or wrong? <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Hello Jim,

I think the speed of the solar system is not constant. The climate in the past has varied between glaciations and warming periods. I am suggesting that the sun plays a major role and not the "ocean current displacement" theory and other atmospheric occurences which is triggering climate change.
Whatever happens to the orbital dynamics of planets, atmospheric variations, geophysics, and the rest... is directly linked to the potential (entropy) of the sun.
It is the reason why I am trying to link the motion behavior of the sun while it is moving around the center of the galaxy: The greater the acceleration of the solar system is, the higher is its entropy.

I am assuming the solar system is now in an accelerating phase.

I have read in some other article that the motion of the solar system is moving in a wave-like fashion* with a period of approx. 100000 years (I do not know what this would represent in terms of distance.) perpendicular to the ecliptic of the galaxy. (I had previously thought this to be in the plane of the ecliptic).

*The reason for this motion I do not understand. Maybe it is the wobbling effect of the solar system which is responsible, or maybe its present position in the galaxy.
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there is only one way you will find out for sure and that is by understanding "Plasmas" and/or Cosmic Plasmas. at the very least Cosmic Plamas.

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19 years 10 months ago #11727 by north
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suppemental;

did you know that it is jets of plasma that spin and manouver satellites in orbit?

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19 years 10 months ago #11728 by north
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by north</i>
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<i>Originally posted by GD</i>
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<i>Originally posted by Jim</i>
<br />Just to be clear here you are suggesting entrophy is slowing down the solar system and the atom-right or wrong? <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Hello Jim,

I think the speed of the solar system is not constant. The climate in the past has varied between glaciations and warming periods. I am suggesting that the sun plays a major role and not the "ocean current displacement" theory and other atmospheric occurences which is triggering climate change.
Whatever happens to the orbital dynamics of planets, atmospheric variations, geophysics, and the rest... is directly linked to the potential (entropy) of the sun.
It is the reason why I am trying to link the motion behavior of the sun while it is moving around the center of the galaxy: The greater the acceleration of the solar system is, the higher is its entropy.



the reason that higher acceleration is moving towards higher entropy is because it is actually reaching a higher energy state.it is becoming less and less a particle(its mass is decreasing) more towards a pure plasma. the thing is,is that, plasma, is the esscence of ALL SUBSTANCE,its not at the bottom of the four states of matter it is at the TOP!! the acceration is giving particle plasma, energy. which means that energy is moving back to its orginal form HIGH ENERGY STATE.(non-particle)

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19 years 10 months ago #11785 by Jim
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Climate change is something that has been going on since Earth was formed-whenever that was. The cycles you are kicking around are from orbital dymamics and in my opinion don't have a great enough effect to cause climate change as great as has occured on the Earth in the past. Do the math and see how much energy needs to be shifted to cause ice to form 3,000 meters thick over the polar zones of Earth. Then figure out how much energy would be shifted by orbital changes that are modeled. It will not balance.

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19 years 10 months ago #11729 by mhelland
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I think there is something wrong with my computer or this site: I cannot read a thing of the comments, the wording is lost in the background.

Nevertheless I read Jim's and North's comments earlier.

Jim:
I did the math concerning snow accumulation over lets say 50000 years of glaciation (half the cycle): it would amount to approx. 3/4" of ice per year for a 3000 ft thick glacier which would represent maybe 8 to 12" of snow per year. I think this is a definite scenario.

North:
I completely agree that plasma is a high energy state of matter but it is also in a high entropy state. If you had a choice between taking liquid hydrogen or plasma to feed a rocket engine, you would use liquid hydrogen since it has more potential (free) energy.Plasma has less potential(free) energy, it is almost all energy. Do you agree ?

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19 years 10 months ago #11730 by GD
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Hey!

The previous message was from GD not Mhelland !

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