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20 years 5 months ago #9823
by NonEuclidean
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Jim</i>
<br />EBTX, If you feel that blackholes can form I ask you why you feel there is a need for them? And do you feel they do in fact exist at all?
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Well, looking from a cosmological standpoint, black holes might actually be the new "big bangs" for other universes. I mean, we clearly see the galaxies are moving away from each other. There is still debate over the evolutionary model of our universe. Although I see no functional/economical/theosophical/logical reason for universe to be infinite. As we see from biology, every little thing on this planet (except for human made thingies) exists for "some" purpose (deliberate or accidental, it doesn't matter - I am not trying to imply any "god" here) on the lowest necessary energy level.
But there is one possible, although remote explanation, that eventually the galaxies in local clusters will collide, all the stars consumed in super-gigantic black holes. When that happens, there will be an enourmous distance gap between "hotspots", no more matter for these holes to consume, and they will eventually collapse.
Even though there is a mathematical/logical "evidence" that Schwarzchild singularity cannot exist, is it possible that such intense gravity forces may in fact create entire new universes "somewhere out of" our 3-D spatial space? And the energy for these new universes is in fact the energy of the mass that entered that particual black hole.
In such an environment you don't need angular momentum. The whole thing collapsed, "bursted" into another "dimension" (lack of proper terms). Such collapsing might last for milions of years in our universe, but happen in a fraction of a second in "another universe".
The process might continue in the "new universes" until there's no energy left to form new black holes. What happens next is completely impossible to imagine.
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Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle lecture is tomorrow in Memorial Hall OR at 9 o'clock.
<br />EBTX, If you feel that blackholes can form I ask you why you feel there is a need for them? And do you feel they do in fact exist at all?
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Well, looking from a cosmological standpoint, black holes might actually be the new "big bangs" for other universes. I mean, we clearly see the galaxies are moving away from each other. There is still debate over the evolutionary model of our universe. Although I see no functional/economical/theosophical/logical reason for universe to be infinite. As we see from biology, every little thing on this planet (except for human made thingies) exists for "some" purpose (deliberate or accidental, it doesn't matter - I am not trying to imply any "god" here) on the lowest necessary energy level.
But there is one possible, although remote explanation, that eventually the galaxies in local clusters will collide, all the stars consumed in super-gigantic black holes. When that happens, there will be an enourmous distance gap between "hotspots", no more matter for these holes to consume, and they will eventually collapse.
Even though there is a mathematical/logical "evidence" that Schwarzchild singularity cannot exist, is it possible that such intense gravity forces may in fact create entire new universes "somewhere out of" our 3-D spatial space? And the energy for these new universes is in fact the energy of the mass that entered that particual black hole.
In such an environment you don't need angular momentum. The whole thing collapsed, "bursted" into another "dimension" (lack of proper terms). Such collapsing might last for milions of years in our universe, but happen in a fraction of a second in "another universe".
The process might continue in the "new universes" until there's no energy left to form new black holes. What happens next is completely impossible to imagine.
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Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle lecture is tomorrow in Memorial Hall OR at 9 o'clock.
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20 years 5 months ago #9880
by Jim
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Hi NC, Of course anything is possible in musing or math but really what is the reason blackholes are supposed to exist? BTW, same thing for the TVF modified blackhole.
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