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20 years 5 months ago #9820 by Jim
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The math has to be done to see that the distance of 20" does not change during the orbit. You gave me a link to tour vision of how things should be but what about a link to the USNO page that has this topic?

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20 years 5 months ago #9923 by Don Omni
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To further explain Kq^2/d^2>\/=h/16pi^2qt if the charges were attractive then we'd actually find -q^2K/d^2<\/=h/16pi^2qt which's the electromagnetic uncertainty gauge -<\/=+.

Afterwards the denominated qt must be solved so E/F=q and t=d/v hence Ed/Fv that actually says Ed/Power that leaves d/t or a distance frequency that I showed exists in the energy proportion on the c^2 page.

-q^2K/d^2<\/=h/16pi^2c

Now F/q=V/d so Fd/q=V therefore Fq/q=V and a Newton is equal to a volt.

-q^2K/d^2<\/=h/4.734x10^10d/t

-q^2K/d^2<\/=1.399x10^-24V

Which's the em uncertainty wave cone voltage.

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20 years 5 months ago #9831 by Jim
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I got an e-mail from USNO and they tell me there is no data at USNO or anywhere else that indicates there is a violation of relativity laws anywhere. And they added if there was it would by front page news. So I assume they are saying the data TVF says is at USNO does not exist. Are they in error in this?

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20 years 5 months ago #9924 by tvanflandern
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Jim</i>
<br />I got an e-mail from USNO and they tell me there is no data at USNO or anywhere else that indicates there is a violation of relativity laws anywhere.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Weird. Why would you expect to hear anything else, if that was your question? I told you that USNO was one of the many places in the world that takes transit circle data, and that data shows a 20" difference between the true and apparent positions of the Sun, or equivalently a 20" difference between the directions that the Sun's light and gravity arrive from. Ask for confirmation of that and you will get it.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">And they added if there was it would by front page news.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Six experiments show a problem with the <i>physical interpretation</i> of relativity, but not with relativity itself. One of those six is based on the Sun's apparent place differing from the direction of its gravity. These results and their implications for the speed of gravity and for relativity were published in: “Experimental Repeal of the Speed Limit for Gravitational, Electrodynamic, and Quantum Field Interactions”, T. Van Flandern and J.P. Vigier, Found.Phys. 32(#7), 1031-1068 (2002). I don't recall seeing any front page news about it, do you?

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">So I assume they are saying the data TVF says is at USNO does not exist. Are they in error in this?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">You apparently did not ask the right question. The question you did ask, challenging the correctness of Einstein's relativity, was like waving a red flag in front of a bull, or the equivalent of "Have you stopped beating your wife?" I don't care to play that game. Is your goal achieving knowledge or starting a catfight? Make up your mind. Then clue us in about what you decided.

Exactly what is it that you want to know? -|Tom|-

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20 years 5 months ago #9844 by Jim
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You tell me the question I should ask USNO about the data indicating there is a 20" difference in the two points. I did not know I was dealing with cats here.

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20 years 5 months ago #10185 by tvanflandern
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Jim</i>
<br />You tell me the question I should ask USNO about the data indicating there is a 20" difference in the two points.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">I told you that USNO was one of the many places in the world that takes transit circle data, and that data shows a 20" difference between the true and apparent positions of the Sun, or equivalently a 20" difference between the directions that the Sun's light and gravity arrive from. Ask for confirmation of that and you will get it.

I still don't know what knowledge you are seeking, so can't be more specific than that.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I did not know I was dealing with cats here.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">You should know that most scientists recognize that criticizing relativity is a career-ender. So don't back them into a corner with such direct questions. Just ask then to confirm the observational evidence. -|Tom|-

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