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Morley/Michelson Inferometer
21 years 1 month ago #6574
by Mac
Replied by Mac on topic Reply from Dan McCoin
Jim,
Actually the experiment was re-run using and improved design and in 1933 the results were released but after 1919 and the eclipse data claiming to support Relativity nobody listened.
The other test did measure earths movement around the sun and a deviation of the measurement periodicaly with earths rotation being + or - the orbit speed.
One other point became obvious. The results were less than predicted by theory and suggested ether drag. that is the ether near earths surface wasn't a true rest reference.
users.aber.ac.uk/cat/Papers/Miller40.htm
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Actually the experiment was re-run using and improved design and in 1933 the results were released but after 1919 and the eclipse data claiming to support Relativity nobody listened.
The other test did measure earths movement around the sun and a deviation of the measurement periodicaly with earths rotation being + or - the orbit speed.
One other point became obvious. The results were less than predicted by theory and suggested ether drag. that is the ether near earths surface wasn't a true rest reference.
users.aber.ac.uk/cat/Papers/Miller40.htm
Knowing to believe only half of what you hear is a sign of intelligence. Knowing which half to believe can make you a genius.
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21 years 1 month ago #6660
by Jim
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Orbital speed and radial velocity are not equivalent so did the later test measure radial velocity and if so do you know what the result was? I've been searching for that data for ever.
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21 years 1 month ago #6611
by kc3mx
Replied by kc3mx on topic Reply from Harry Ricker
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Mac</i>
<br />Jim,
Actually the experiment was re-run using and improved design and in 1933 the results were released but after 1919 and the eclipse data claiming to support Relativity nobody listened.
The other test did measure earths movement around the sun and a deviation of the measurement periodicaly with earths rotation being + or - the orbit speed.
One other point became obvious. The results were less than predicted by theory and suggested ether drag. that is the ether near earths surface wasn't a true rest reference.
users.aber.ac.uk/cat/Papers/Miller40.htm
Knowing to believe only half of what you hear is a sign of intelligence. Knowing which half to believe can make you a genius.
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<br />Jim,
Actually the experiment was re-run using and improved design and in 1933 the results were released but after 1919 and the eclipse data claiming to support Relativity nobody listened.
The other test did measure earths movement around the sun and a deviation of the measurement periodicaly with earths rotation being + or - the orbit speed.
One other point became obvious. The results were less than predicted by theory and suggested ether drag. that is the ether near earths surface wasn't a true rest reference.
users.aber.ac.uk/cat/Papers/Miller40.htm
Knowing to believe only half of what you hear is a sign of intelligence. Knowing which half to believe can make you a genius.
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21 years 1 month ago #6612
by kc3mx
Replied by kc3mx on topic Reply from Harry Ricker
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by kc3mx</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Mac</i>
<br />Jim,
Actually the experiment was re-run using and improved design and in 1933 the results were released but after 1919 and the eclipse data claiming to support Relativity nobody listened.
The other test did measure earths movement around the sun and a deviation of the measurement periodicaly with earths rotation being + or - the orbit speed.
One other point became obvious. The results were less than predicted by theory and suggested ether drag. that is the ether near earths surface wasn't a true rest reference.
users.aber.ac.uk/cat/Papers/Miller40.htm
Knowing to believe only half of what you hear is a sign of intelligence. Knowing which half to believe can make you a genius.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">I would like to point out that the Michaelson-Gale experiment is more informative. In this experiment they were able to detect the rotation of the earth. This presents a problem. If a similar experiment could not detect the motion of the earth around the sun, then how was it possible to detect the rotation of the earth on its axis? Another experiment to be knowedgable of is the Kennedy Thorndike experiment. This experiment failed to detect the motion of the earth around the sun, but detected the rotation of the earth. Since these experiments are basically the M-M experiment the explaination is the same. But why is it possible to detect the rotation of the earth? The relativistic answer should apply the same way in both cases. This being that you can't detect either the movement around the sun or the rotation of the earth.
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<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Mac</i>
<br />Jim,
Actually the experiment was re-run using and improved design and in 1933 the results were released but after 1919 and the eclipse data claiming to support Relativity nobody listened.
The other test did measure earths movement around the sun and a deviation of the measurement periodicaly with earths rotation being + or - the orbit speed.
One other point became obvious. The results were less than predicted by theory and suggested ether drag. that is the ether near earths surface wasn't a true rest reference.
users.aber.ac.uk/cat/Papers/Miller40.htm
Knowing to believe only half of what you hear is a sign of intelligence. Knowing which half to believe can make you a genius.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">I would like to point out that the Michaelson-Gale experiment is more informative. In this experiment they were able to detect the rotation of the earth. This presents a problem. If a similar experiment could not detect the motion of the earth around the sun, then how was it possible to detect the rotation of the earth on its axis? Another experiment to be knowedgable of is the Kennedy Thorndike experiment. This experiment failed to detect the motion of the earth around the sun, but detected the rotation of the earth. Since these experiments are basically the M-M experiment the explaination is the same. But why is it possible to detect the rotation of the earth? The relativistic answer should apply the same way in both cases. This being that you can't detect either the movement around the sun or the rotation of the earth.
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21 years 1 month ago #6613
by EBTX
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One might detect the rotation of the earth by an M&M device because one side of the device is travelling at a different velocity than the other. The difference is ever-so-slight. Thus, a man at the equator is going about two thousand miles per hour but an eskimo is going only a few hundred mph.
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21 years 1 month ago #6722
by Mac
Replied by Mac on topic Reply from Dan McCoin
As I understand the problem seems to be that a massive object entrains aether. That is carries it along like an atmosphere. The velocity around the sun is not measured as readily since the local aether is traveling with the earth. However due to its rotation there is a periodic pertabation as the rotational speed is added to orbital speed and 12 hours later rotational speed is deducted from orbit speed.
Think of a fast curve ball in baseball. The air forms a general compression but it becomes assymetrical due to the spin. That is the density varies on one side versus the other. It is that deviation that the later test picked up.
Knowing to believe only half of what you hear is a sign of intelligence. Knowing which half to believe can make you a genius.
Think of a fast curve ball in baseball. The air forms a general compression but it becomes assymetrical due to the spin. That is the density varies on one side versus the other. It is that deviation that the later test picked up.
Knowing to believe only half of what you hear is a sign of intelligence. Knowing which half to believe can make you a genius.
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