Galaxy collisions

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Rudolf</i>
<br />This could mean a whole other way of thinking about gravity.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">It is a new way of thinking about the nature of mass, which must consist of nucleons plus lots of elysium. But if we assume that mass includes elysium already, nothing much changes until we get to scales greater than a few kpc. Then we must indeed start considering intergalactic elysium as a major component of the material universe. -|Tom|-

But won't it also apply to other scales like planetary bodies or stars? Why would the 'effect' only apply to the extreme scales (vary small and very large)?

In the case of galaxy clusters and perhaps of the 'great walls' of galaxies can the same effect be seen? It is interesting to note that elysium might have such effects at vastly differently scales.

Rudolf

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Rudolf</i>
<br />But won't it also apply to other scales like planetary bodies or stars? Why would the 'effect' only apply to the extreme scales (vary small and very large)?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">There would be an effect in the solar system too, but very small. The elysium mass near the Sun is only enough to bend starlight by 10^-5 radians.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">In the case of galaxy clusters and perhaps of the 'great walls' of galaxies can the same effect be seen?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Yes. It probably has something to do with the detected-but-unexplained "quantization" effects in galaxy redshifts. -|Tom|-

I have read somewhere (can't remember exactly where - might be Halton Arp) about the quantization in galaxy redshifts. How do you link these two effects - out of interest?

Thanks

Rudolf

Another question related to the original, given that that gravity has the same 'lack' of direct effect on galaxy collisions would a similar effect be seen on atomic and subatomic scales (where gravity also is not the dominant force)? Obviously the timeframes of the collision events would be vastly different.

Rudolf

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Rudolf</i>
<br />... the quantization in galaxy redshifts. How do you link these two effects - out of interest?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">If elysium occurs in great waves in intergalactic space, then light will slow and redshift will increase more rapidly where the elysium is denser than elsewhere.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">would a similar effect be seen on atomic and subatomic scales<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">It could be. We've just begun to explore that scale with this model. -|Tom|-