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19 years 3 months ago #14243
by tvanflandern
Replied by tvanflandern on topic Reply from Tom Van Flandern
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by chriscurtis</i>
<br />... a static universe where gravity was always attractive would have galaxies collapse in on themselves.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">That would be true if the range of Newtonian gravity was indeed infinite. But if gravity is carried by gravitons, then its range is finite and limited to a few kiloparsecs. At that distance or less, gravitons collide with other gravitons and scatter. That is why the law of gravity changes character at greater distances. And it means a infinite universe produces no new problems for theory. It has no tendency to collapse except over ranges less than a few kiloparsecs.
You can read more about these issues and their solution in my book <i>Dark Matter, Missing Planets and New Comets</i>, or the 20-author book <i>Pushing Gravity</i>, and/or our "Gravity" CD. See metaresearch.org/publications/CDs/GravityContents.asp -|Tom|-
<br />... a static universe where gravity was always attractive would have galaxies collapse in on themselves.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">That would be true if the range of Newtonian gravity was indeed infinite. But if gravity is carried by gravitons, then its range is finite and limited to a few kiloparsecs. At that distance or less, gravitons collide with other gravitons and scatter. That is why the law of gravity changes character at greater distances. And it means a infinite universe produces no new problems for theory. It has no tendency to collapse except over ranges less than a few kiloparsecs.
You can read more about these issues and their solution in my book <i>Dark Matter, Missing Planets and New Comets</i>, or the 20-author book <i>Pushing Gravity</i>, and/or our "Gravity" CD. See metaresearch.org/publications/CDs/GravityContents.asp -|Tom|-
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19 years 3 months ago #13591
by JMB
Replied by JMB on topic Reply from Jacques Moret-Bailly
Most discussions about the big bang suppose, implicitely or not that the redshifts are purely Doppler (or expansion) or gravitational. The CREIL is an elementary effect which explains all extra redshift very simply: they happens if there is some excited atomic hydrogen on the path of the light !
It is difficult to discuss using the observation of far objects (although finding the spectrum of hydrogen from the observed redshift seems remarkable !).
Therefore, I studied the anomalous frequency shifts in the solar system. There are, in my knowledge three anomalous frequency shifts:
-UV émissions lines in the chromosphère, badly explained by spicules or magnetic syphons; ( www.kis.uni-freiburg.de/~peter/pub/refereed/hao/sumer_roll.pdf ; published in AJ).
- too high frequency of the radio received from probes distant of more than 5 UA (arxiv:gr-qc/0104064; pub. Phys. Rev. ;too: gr-qc/0208046)
- anisotropy of the CMB bound to the écliptic (arxiv:astro-ph/0403353; Phys. Rev. Lett.).
It is remarkable that all these anomalies happen in conditions where the electromagnetic waves cross excited atomic hydrogen; see arxiv: physics/0507141.
It is difficult to discuss using the observation of far objects (although finding the spectrum of hydrogen from the observed redshift seems remarkable !).
Therefore, I studied the anomalous frequency shifts in the solar system. There are, in my knowledge three anomalous frequency shifts:
-UV émissions lines in the chromosphère, badly explained by spicules or magnetic syphons; ( www.kis.uni-freiburg.de/~peter/pub/refereed/hao/sumer_roll.pdf ; published in AJ).
- too high frequency of the radio received from probes distant of more than 5 UA (arxiv:gr-qc/0104064; pub. Phys. Rev. ;too: gr-qc/0208046)
- anisotropy of the CMB bound to the écliptic (arxiv:astro-ph/0403353; Phys. Rev. Lett.).
It is remarkable that all these anomalies happen in conditions where the electromagnetic waves cross excited atomic hydrogen; see arxiv: physics/0507141.
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19 years 2 months ago #14424
by PhilJ
Replied by PhilJ on topic Reply from Philip Janes
I'm not getting a link to page 2, so I can't view the latest post, here. Hopefully, by posting this post #17, I'll get to see post #16. Here goes nuttin'.
Well, that didn't work. Maybe post #16 was deleted.
Well, that didn't work. Maybe post #16 was deleted.
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