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19 years 7 months ago #13266
by JMB
Replied by JMB on topic Reply from Jacques Moret-Bailly
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Tommy</i>
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[Hal Puthoff]
Among a certain group of physicists (those interested in the physics of vacuum fluctuations) it is touted. I have provided over 500 reprints. A nice "tout" was presented in the 9 Jul 1987 issue of New Scientist, p. 26, in an article titled "Why atoms don't collapse."<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
The origin of "the classical electron falls to the kernel" is an error in the understanding of the electromagnetism (more generally of the concept of field). An accelerated electric charge emits a field, but this <b>does not mean that it emits energy.</b> The change of energy is the result of the interference of the emitted field with the external fields.
There is no insulated system in electromagnetism, so that the usual computations of the emitted energies (by an oscillating dipole, for instance) are mathematical plays which are physically meaningless because the external fields are not taken into account.
The interference of the field emitted by an electron on a Bohr's orbit (corrected by Lamb) and the zero point field leads to a zero emitted energy.
I do not understand your discussion about plasma balls. Some are probably created by the lightnings. Assuming a convenient non-linearity of the plasma, stable, static 3-dimensional solitons may be stable, until the plasma decays. No mystery !
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[Hal Puthoff]
Among a certain group of physicists (those interested in the physics of vacuum fluctuations) it is touted. I have provided over 500 reprints. A nice "tout" was presented in the 9 Jul 1987 issue of New Scientist, p. 26, in an article titled "Why atoms don't collapse."<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
The origin of "the classical electron falls to the kernel" is an error in the understanding of the electromagnetism (more generally of the concept of field). An accelerated electric charge emits a field, but this <b>does not mean that it emits energy.</b> The change of energy is the result of the interference of the emitted field with the external fields.
There is no insulated system in electromagnetism, so that the usual computations of the emitted energies (by an oscillating dipole, for instance) are mathematical plays which are physically meaningless because the external fields are not taken into account.
The interference of the field emitted by an electron on a Bohr's orbit (corrected by Lamb) and the zero point field leads to a zero emitted energy.
I do not understand your discussion about plasma balls. Some are probably created by the lightnings. Assuming a convenient non-linearity of the plasma, stable, static 3-dimensional solitons may be stable, until the plasma decays. No mystery !
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19 years 7 months ago #12543
by Tommy
Replied by Tommy on topic Reply from Thomas Mandel
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I do not understand your discussion about plasma balls. Some are probably created by the lightnings. Assuming a convenient non-linearity of the plasma, stable, static 3-dimensional solitons may be stable, until the plasma decays. No mystery !
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Well, here is what I mean by fragmented alternatives. The mainstreamers do not have to do anything, just let us self-destruct.
Perhaps you are right that a plasma ball harbors no mystery, yet a mystery does pop up when we consider how many of them are floating around. And how long does the decay take? A plasma ball was seen regularily in a submarine emerging from electrical contacts and then seen to float down the passageway. They have also been seen emerging from earthquake fissures so they do exist.
But strange "balls of Light" have been seen in unusual places, and not just a few. Hundreds of sightings have been made around crop circles. In one case a video camera caught a ball of light hovering above a crop circle, and when a farmer approached on his tractor, the ball of light is seen moving off twad the machine, and as it flies overhead, the farmer clearly twists his head to follow it. (Incidently, the scientific analysis of crop circles indicate anolmalies caused by extreme heat.)
So now we have a mystery of what are these balls of light and what is controlling them? I have no proof, but it is nonetheless obvious to me that these balls of light do not carry around a battery pack.
But if you say so, there is no mystery. We just popped up from nothing
and happened this way after the fact such that only the survivors survive.
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Well, here is what I mean by fragmented alternatives. The mainstreamers do not have to do anything, just let us self-destruct.
Perhaps you are right that a plasma ball harbors no mystery, yet a mystery does pop up when we consider how many of them are floating around. And how long does the decay take? A plasma ball was seen regularily in a submarine emerging from electrical contacts and then seen to float down the passageway. They have also been seen emerging from earthquake fissures so they do exist.
But strange "balls of Light" have been seen in unusual places, and not just a few. Hundreds of sightings have been made around crop circles. In one case a video camera caught a ball of light hovering above a crop circle, and when a farmer approached on his tractor, the ball of light is seen moving off twad the machine, and as it flies overhead, the farmer clearly twists his head to follow it. (Incidently, the scientific analysis of crop circles indicate anolmalies caused by extreme heat.)
So now we have a mystery of what are these balls of light and what is controlling them? I have no proof, but it is nonetheless obvious to me that these balls of light do not carry around a battery pack.
But if you say so, there is no mystery. We just popped up from nothing
and happened this way after the fact such that only the survivors survive.
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19 years 7 months ago #12577
by JMB
Replied by JMB on topic Reply from Jacques Moret-Bailly
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Tommy</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I do not understand your discussion about plasma balls. Some are probably created by the lightnings. Assuming a convenient non-linearity of the plasma, stable, static 3-dimensional solitons may be stable, until the plasma decays. No mystery !
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Perhaps you are right that a plasma ball harbors no mystery, yet a mystery does pop up when we consider how many of them are floating around. And how long does the decay take?
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If we refer to the macroscopic balls which appear during a lightning, their lifetime is seconds, by a decay of the excited molecules which make the plasma. If we try to apply the theory not to plasma, but to represent the elementary particlesby microscopic balls, we assume that the properties of the medium (high frequency electromagnetic field ?) do not decay : we know that, at high frequencies, in the vacuum, Maxwell's equations supposed linear fail (creation of electron pairs), so that it is not absurd to suppose that it appears a nonlinearity able to allow the production of 3-D, static solitons.
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A plasma ball was seen regularily in a submarine emerging from electrical contacts and then seen to float down the passageway. They have also been seen emerging from earthquake fissures so they do exist.
But strange "balls of Light" have been seen in unusual places, and not just a few. Hundreds of sightings have been made around crop circles. In one case a video camera caught a ball of light hovering above a crop circle, and when a farmer approached on his tractor, the ball of light is seen moving off twad the machine, and as it flies overhead, the farmer clearly twists his head to follow it. (Incidently, the scientific analysis of crop circles indicate anolmalies caused by extreme heat.)
So now we have a mystery of what are these balls of light and what is controlling them? I have no proof, but it is nonetheless obvious to me that these balls of light do not carry around a battery pack.
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The macroscopic balls of light are observed where high voltages allow the creation of plasma. It is necessary to distinguish between sure observations and flying saucers.
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I do not understand your discussion about plasma balls. Some are probably created by the lightnings. Assuming a convenient non-linearity of the plasma, stable, static 3-dimensional solitons may be stable, until the plasma decays. No mystery !
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Perhaps you are right that a plasma ball harbors no mystery, yet a mystery does pop up when we consider how many of them are floating around. And how long does the decay take?
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
If we refer to the macroscopic balls which appear during a lightning, their lifetime is seconds, by a decay of the excited molecules which make the plasma. If we try to apply the theory not to plasma, but to represent the elementary particlesby microscopic balls, we assume that the properties of the medium (high frequency electromagnetic field ?) do not decay : we know that, at high frequencies, in the vacuum, Maxwell's equations supposed linear fail (creation of electron pairs), so that it is not absurd to suppose that it appears a nonlinearity able to allow the production of 3-D, static solitons.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">
A plasma ball was seen regularily in a submarine emerging from electrical contacts and then seen to float down the passageway. They have also been seen emerging from earthquake fissures so they do exist.
But strange "balls of Light" have been seen in unusual places, and not just a few. Hundreds of sightings have been made around crop circles. In one case a video camera caught a ball of light hovering above a crop circle, and when a farmer approached on his tractor, the ball of light is seen moving off twad the machine, and as it flies overhead, the farmer clearly twists his head to follow it. (Incidently, the scientific analysis of crop circles indicate anolmalies caused by extreme heat.)
So now we have a mystery of what are these balls of light and what is controlling them? I have no proof, but it is nonetheless obvious to me that these balls of light do not carry around a battery pack.
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The macroscopic balls of light are observed where high voltages allow the creation of plasma. It is necessary to distinguish between sure observations and flying saucers.
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19 years 7 months ago #13201
by Tommy
Replied by Tommy on topic Reply from Thomas Mandel
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">The macroscopic balls of light are observed where high voltages allow the creation of plasma. It is necessary to distinguish between sure observations and flying saucers.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
I am trying very hard not to look at flying saucers. But I can't help but notice that a great many of the so-called UFO's are sightings of lights. In fact I just read in an news of India paper on the Internet that there were numerous UFO sightings just before the Tsunami hit. They didn't say if the UFO's were balls of light.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">In one case a video camera caught a ball of light hovering above a crop circle, and when a farmer approached on his tractor, the ball of light is seen moving off toward the tractor, and as it flies overhead, the farmer clearly twists his head to follow it.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
I think that confirms the observation (assuming we are listening to honest people here) All we need is one ya know.
The point I am trying to make is not so much that the millions of sightings of lights may actually be plasma balls, but that our Sun, a star, and hence all stars, are balls of plasma. National Geographic doesn't hesitate to say so.
Now, having said that, can plasma create energy? In other words, can the Sun create matter? Obviously, this hypothesis is ludicrous if space is assumed to be empty. BUT, it is almost generally agreed by all that space is not empty, it is full of myriad different names.
They say plasma is scalable. What they see on a small scale is what is expected on a large scale. Well, what they see on a small scale is the production of over-unity energy. And while they admit they haven't been able to harness this "free energy" it is obvious that the Sun is not having the same problems.
And in fact Oort did measure an outward flow of matter from the centers of Galaxies. Not only that, the measured flow would have depleted any Galaxy by now.
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Speculations: It seems to me that the picture that is emerging is somehow the opposite (complementary?) of the Big Bang Theory. Instead of gravity sucking all matter up, EMP is producing more matter. And here comes the wild guessing, instead of a Impossible Big Bang even before time began, maybe, just maybe, there is a Real Little Big Bang in our sky every day. After all, the Big Bangers will need something to do...
I am trying very hard not to look at flying saucers. But I can't help but notice that a great many of the so-called UFO's are sightings of lights. In fact I just read in an news of India paper on the Internet that there were numerous UFO sightings just before the Tsunami hit. They didn't say if the UFO's were balls of light.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">In one case a video camera caught a ball of light hovering above a crop circle, and when a farmer approached on his tractor, the ball of light is seen moving off toward the tractor, and as it flies overhead, the farmer clearly twists his head to follow it.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
I think that confirms the observation (assuming we are listening to honest people here) All we need is one ya know.
The point I am trying to make is not so much that the millions of sightings of lights may actually be plasma balls, but that our Sun, a star, and hence all stars, are balls of plasma. National Geographic doesn't hesitate to say so.
Now, having said that, can plasma create energy? In other words, can the Sun create matter? Obviously, this hypothesis is ludicrous if space is assumed to be empty. BUT, it is almost generally agreed by all that space is not empty, it is full of myriad different names.
They say plasma is scalable. What they see on a small scale is what is expected on a large scale. Well, what they see on a small scale is the production of over-unity energy. And while they admit they haven't been able to harness this "free energy" it is obvious that the Sun is not having the same problems.
And in fact Oort did measure an outward flow of matter from the centers of Galaxies. Not only that, the measured flow would have depleted any Galaxy by now.
<hr noshade size="1">
Speculations: It seems to me that the picture that is emerging is somehow the opposite (complementary?) of the Big Bang Theory. Instead of gravity sucking all matter up, EMP is producing more matter. And here comes the wild guessing, instead of a Impossible Big Bang even before time began, maybe, just maybe, there is a Real Little Big Bang in our sky every day. After all, the Big Bangers will need something to do...
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19 years 7 months ago #12582
by Tommy
Replied by Tommy on topic Reply from Thomas Mandel
Look at what I just found...
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><center>Quest for Zero Point Energy
Engineering principles for "Free Energy."
Moray B King
Scalar Compression
September 2001
Introduction</center>
A recurring theme in "free energy" inventions is to invoke a "scalar" activation of the zero-point energy by repeatedly triggering overlapping and opposing electric or magnetic fields in an abrupt, spiking manner. (1) The word "scalar" refers to the fact that the field vectors completely cancel leaving only a scalar potential. Popular approaches include pulsing caduceus would coils or rapidly accelerating opposing magnets past each other. Support for the notion that anomalously excessive energy might arise from such activity comes from observations of the sun's corona. Here solar flares can suddenly release up to 10x25 joules when oppositely directed magnetic field lines in plasma filaments suddenly cross and cancel each other. The corona contains a turbulent, fractal distribution of solar flares. Could the anomalously high energy exhibited by the sun's corona actually be sourced from the zero-point energy? pp197<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><center>Quest for Zero Point Energy
Engineering principles for "Free Energy."
Moray B King
Scalar Compression
September 2001
Introduction</center>
A recurring theme in "free energy" inventions is to invoke a "scalar" activation of the zero-point energy by repeatedly triggering overlapping and opposing electric or magnetic fields in an abrupt, spiking manner. (1) The word "scalar" refers to the fact that the field vectors completely cancel leaving only a scalar potential. Popular approaches include pulsing caduceus would coils or rapidly accelerating opposing magnets past each other. Support for the notion that anomalously excessive energy might arise from such activity comes from observations of the sun's corona. Here solar flares can suddenly release up to 10x25 joules when oppositely directed magnetic field lines in plasma filaments suddenly cross and cancel each other. The corona contains a turbulent, fractal distribution of solar flares. Could the anomalously high energy exhibited by the sun's corona actually be sourced from the zero-point energy? pp197<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
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19 years 7 months ago #12584
by Tommy
Replied by Tommy on topic Reply from Thomas Mandel
Some pictures are worth a thousand words.
[img]http//www.fixall.org/imagefiles/plasmavortex.gif[/img]
[img]http//www.fixall.org/imagefiles/plasmavortex.gif[/img]
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