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18 years 4 months ago #9029
by neilderosa
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In this informal, preliminary survey I examined scores of image strips; almost all of those listed in the MSSS gallery for West Candor Chasma and many from the other chasmas of the Valles Marineris system. Although there are possible faces in many of them, (mostly on the chasma floors), the best ones were in the WCC.
Although I didn't count them, several were examined in both the north-up and south-up direction. The vast majority of the faces found in this way were north oriented, or close to north oriented. A few were south oriented, maybe 5-10 percent, and I spotted one or two that were east or west oriented, although admittedly I didn't do a search with those orientations up. At some time in the near future I will try to catalog what I found and place them in order of likeliness for artificiality and my reasons for so placing them.
In the meantime here are two that seem to be both north and south oriented. Perhaps these were intended as "markers" (an interpretation) to make it easier to spot a local group of faces or structures.
M0300647, "Devil" posted previously.
M0300647, "Saint" posted previosly.
Now here are the same images when viewed with south up. They look different but are still seen as possible faces.
Neil
Although I didn't count them, several were examined in both the north-up and south-up direction. The vast majority of the faces found in this way were north oriented, or close to north oriented. A few were south oriented, maybe 5-10 percent, and I spotted one or two that were east or west oriented, although admittedly I didn't do a search with those orientations up. At some time in the near future I will try to catalog what I found and place them in order of likeliness for artificiality and my reasons for so placing them.
In the meantime here are two that seem to be both north and south oriented. Perhaps these were intended as "markers" (an interpretation) to make it easier to spot a local group of faces or structures.
M0300647, "Devil" posted previously.
M0300647, "Saint" posted previosly.
Now here are the same images when viewed with south up. They look different but are still seen as possible faces.
Neil
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18 years 3 months ago #9030
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Today in Woodstock I was looking through an modern art gallery with a friend when I saw something interesting that reminded me straight away of this thread. It was a big mural, made, of all things, of about a thousand spools of sowing thread -- of all different colors. I couldn't tell just what it was, and anyway it was modern art. I didn't expect it to <i>be</i> anything in particular, just a colorfull design. You know what I mean.
The curator said to look through the little prism set up about 5 feet in front of the mural, and when I looked through the prism I saw a full color realistic portrait of a little girl with blond hair. That's neat I thought, must be some kind of trick. Then I moved on to look at the other pictures and artworks in the large gallery.
When I got to the other end of the gallery about 40 feet from the mural, I turned to look for my friend, and that's when I noticed it. The mural no longer looked like "modern art." At that distance the spools of thread had transformed themselves into dots, small enough not to be seen as spools of thread. They now formed a picture of a beautiful portrait of a little girl--upside down! Amazing.
Neil
The curator said to look through the little prism set up about 5 feet in front of the mural, and when I looked through the prism I saw a full color realistic portrait of a little girl with blond hair. That's neat I thought, must be some kind of trick. Then I moved on to look at the other pictures and artworks in the large gallery.
When I got to the other end of the gallery about 40 feet from the mural, I turned to look for my friend, and that's when I noticed it. The mural no longer looked like "modern art." At that distance the spools of thread had transformed themselves into dots, small enough not to be seen as spools of thread. They now formed a picture of a beautiful portrait of a little girl--upside down! Amazing.
Neil
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18 years 3 months ago #9036
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One of the things I learned from reading Tom's books and papers is that a theory, to be scientific, must be falsifiable, at least in principle. We may think we see faces at several scales on Mars. But unless we see (or can hypothesize) some method by which this could have been done, we may not have a scientific theory that we can work with.
In the artwork I saw last week (mentioned above) the clear method was to use sowing thread spools of different colors that would come together at some scale to form a recognizable picture. Similarly, I have found a possible example on Mars where you can see the method used by the artist to create faces at two different scales. I'll post it ASAP.
Neil
In the artwork I saw last week (mentioned above) the clear method was to use sowing thread spools of different colors that would come together at some scale to form a recognizable picture. Similarly, I have found a possible example on Mars where you can see the method used by the artist to create faces at two different scales. I'll post it ASAP.
Neil
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18 years 3 months ago #16050
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Not long ago on another topic I gave myself the task of trying to find out which if any of the famous early known faces were north or south oriented. The only one (at that time) I found to be south oriented (SO) was the "Crownface."
Here's an image I posted at that time, indicating north with Crownface "upside down."
Just a few days ago I was reviewing these images when it occurred to me that if you stand back a little and look, there is a larger scale face of a woman. Illusion? I don't think so.
Here's the woman again, centered better, with some enhancement for contrast and brightness.
And here's noise removal added, and a frame. Could be a poster for a Martian movie star of long ago.
Later I'll tell why I think my theory is a falsifiable hypothesis, and not simply fantasy.
Neil
Here's an image I posted at that time, indicating north with Crownface "upside down."
Just a few days ago I was reviewing these images when it occurred to me that if you stand back a little and look, there is a larger scale face of a woman. Illusion? I don't think so.
Here's the woman again, centered better, with some enhancement for contrast and brightness.
And here's noise removal added, and a frame. Could be a poster for a Martian movie star of long ago.
Later I'll tell why I think my theory is a falsifiable hypothesis, and not simply fantasy.
Neil
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18 years 3 months ago #9041
by Trinket
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Neil your right on ..
Keep it up
ANd lord said know what is in front of you and what is hidden will be revealed..
Keep it up
ANd lord said know what is in front of you and what is hidden will be revealed..
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18 years 3 months ago #16311
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