Doppler-like effects

The thing about EMF is it doesn't obay the laws of thermodynamics. The EMF is the cause of thermal effects as well as other effects. The laws of thermodynamics are about what matter does when it is effected by EMF.

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<br />The thing about EMF is it doesn't obay the laws of thermodynamics.
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Reject EMF.

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<br />Looking for a light-matter interaction which may be confused with a Doppler effect, but which is not a Doppler effect.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

If you are looking for an alternative explanation for the redshift, check out my page regarding the Redshift of Galaxies .

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JMB, What does it mean when you say reject EMF? EMF is the force behind the total electromagnetic spectrum including all the light beams you want to fool around with so how do you then suggest this?

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<br />JMB, What does it mean when you say reject EMF? EMF is the force behind the total electromagnetic spectrum including all the light beams you want to fool around with so how do you then suggest this?
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I consider only a part of the electromagnetic spectrum, excluding the gamma region where Maxwell's equations in the vacuum fail. With this hypothesis, thermodynamics is good.
It is not necessary to consider the gamma region to explain the "anomalous" red- and blue-shifts. It is possible that studying the gamma region, thermodynamics fails, allowing the creation of matter, for instance, but this is too complicated for me.

A principle of science is "reductionism", that is explaining more with less hypothesis. Effects obeying the conditions I wrote (CREIL, light-plasma interactions) allow to explain a lot of anomalous red- and blue-shifts with ordinary, usual physics and trivial astrophysical hypothesis.

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If you are looking for an alternative explanation for the redshift, check out my page regarding the Redshift of Galaxies .
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There are several problems in the model of tired light:
- I do not see its foundation while the CREIl and plasma models are founded on ordinary spectroscopy.
- The time-incoherence of the light is not required, while it is a fundamental condition.

On the CREIL, you may read my papers on arxiv.org, the last being in physics 0503070 and 0507141.

Out of astrophysics now:
I agree with a lot of remarks you do in your web site. My arguments against quantum electrodynamics (QED) are different from yours:
- The theory is not precise, the modes which are used are not defined in a general way (although it may be: look at books on acoustics of the 19th century).
- What is a photon ? No wave function, and is it a type of photon for each of the various spectral lines ?
- All experiments are explained without any error by semi-classical electrodynamics (provided that the zero point field, discovered before QED, and necessary using a correct definition of the modes, is not neglected) while quantum electrodynamics must introduce a strange, ad hoc, "radiation reaction" to correct an error in the problem of spontaneous emission.

Einstein is a genius. Unhappily, he did a big error and received his first Nobel prize for it. Follow Planck : it is the matter which quantifies the exchanges of energy with EM waves !

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