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18 years 2 days ago #17799
by Larry Burford
Replied by Larry Burford on topic Reply from Larry Burford
A fairly well known and frequently used method of showing superscripts in text is to use the "^" symbol (SHIFT 6).
Examples:
Using this notation the spoken phrase "are sqsuared" is written as r^2, and the spoken phrase "vee squared over cee squared" is written as v^2 / c^2. The white space around the division sign is optional, but it usually improves communication.
LB
Examples:
Using this notation the spoken phrase "are sqsuared" is written as r^2, and the spoken phrase "vee squared over cee squared" is written as v^2 / c^2. The white space around the division sign is optional, but it usually improves communication.
LB
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18 years 2 days ago #17800
by Larry Burford
Replied by Larry Burford on topic Reply from Larry Burford
Implied multiplication is difficult to do in text without ambiguity. For example, does ab mean one variable (with the label ab) or does it mean two variables (with labels a and b) multiplied together?
I recommend always using the "*" symbol (SHIFT to explicitly show multiplication.
Example:
ab = c * d
vs.
ab = cd
The meaning is clear in the first equation (where implied multiplication is not allowed), but in the second equation (where implied multiplication is allowed) I might be saying the same thing as in the first equation, or I might be using cd as a single variable.
LB
(Yes, there are other ways to resolve this and other ambiguities. And even if one uses these suggestions it is still often necessary to do some explaining in the surrounding text.)
I recommend always using the "*" symbol (SHIFT to explicitly show multiplication.
Example:
ab = c * d
vs.
ab = cd
The meaning is clear in the first equation (where implied multiplication is not allowed), but in the second equation (where implied multiplication is allowed) I might be saying the same thing as in the first equation, or I might be using cd as a single variable.
LB
(Yes, there are other ways to resolve this and other ambiguities. And even if one uses these suggestions it is still often necessary to do some explaining in the surrounding text.)
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18 years 1 day ago #17803
by Stoat
Replied by Stoat on topic Reply from Robert Turner
Okiedoke. I'd put ** as c^2 and forgot to put white space between the division slash mark..
Oh, and when I worked out the radius of this graviton, for no other reason than my calculator was doing nothing, I just read the mass number as 2.5E -45 now I see that's grammes; Is that not a typo? Shouldn't that be kilogrammes.
It also looks as though these researchers are looking at their graviton as a matter wave, hence the energy being given in electron volts. I've no problems with the idea that matter can absorb ftl gravitons and then re emit them as light speed gravitons but do you?
Oh, and when I worked out the radius of this graviton, for no other reason than my calculator was doing nothing, I just read the mass number as 2.5E -45 now I see that's grammes; Is that not a typo? Shouldn't that be kilogrammes.
It also looks as though these researchers are looking at their graviton as a matter wave, hence the energy being given in electron volts. I've no problems with the idea that matter can absorb ftl gravitons and then re emit them as light speed gravitons but do you?
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18 years 1 day ago #17805
by Stoat
Replied by Stoat on topic Reply from Robert Turner
Just checked that mass, it is in grammes, so that makes my graviton radius out by 1000[][8D] But why was the mass converted to grammes? Is this one of those NASA to ESA engineering problems we keep hearing about I wonder.
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18 years 1 day ago #19023
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Here's the wavelegnth in anyonw wants to knock up a graviton detector in their back garden. 885.593638964E 3 metres. So, eight hundred and eighty five kilometres.
I think it might be an idea to keep an eye on those people who are looking at making negative refractive index capacitors.
I think it might be an idea to keep an eye on those people who are looking at making negative refractive index capacitors.
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18 years 23 hours ago #15063
by Larry Burford
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[Stoat] " ... This suggests that the Le Sage shadow is tiny. ... A very thin, very long tube ... "
In the Le Sage model the graviton shadow cast by any mass is a sphere centered on the mass with a radius estimated to be in the neighborhood of 5,000 to 10,000 lightyears.
[Stoat] " ... this tube/wire could have light speed gravitons living in it. That's because these researchers' data has to be of light speed graviton."
Although light speed gravitons exist in other theories, they are not part of Le Sage's theory. In fact they are explicitly forbidden by Le Sage because gravitons moving this slowly would cause all orbits controlled by gravity to be unstable (orbits would become an outward spiral rather than a closed ellipse), and that is contrary to observation.
Mixing features from two different models creates a third model, but you have not suggested that this is your intent. Or did I miss that?
LB
In the Le Sage model the graviton shadow cast by any mass is a sphere centered on the mass with a radius estimated to be in the neighborhood of 5,000 to 10,000 lightyears.
[Stoat] " ... this tube/wire could have light speed gravitons living in it. That's because these researchers' data has to be of light speed graviton."
Although light speed gravitons exist in other theories, they are not part of Le Sage's theory. In fact they are explicitly forbidden by Le Sage because gravitons moving this slowly would cause all orbits controlled by gravity to be unstable (orbits would become an outward spiral rather than a closed ellipse), and that is contrary to observation.
Mixing features from two different models creates a third model, but you have not suggested that this is your intent. Or did I miss that?
LB
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